Re: SB towing engine thoughts...
[Re: HotRodDave]
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01/31/15 04:31 PM
01/31/15 04:31 PM
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Grizzly
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Anything I am missing or doing wrong?
A T3 turbo.
But that would not be the way the factory did it
Well, that's how Ford does it with a twin-turbo six, and that's factory isn't it?
You can stroke and poke, port and polish, and put whatever cam you like in it and you'll never get a torque curve like the boosted six above.
You don't have a sniff of what you are up against with an ISB Cummins, do you? That's a work machine, not some toy. The ISB makes more torque at 1300rpm than you will at 3500 rpm. Like others are trying to tell you on here, don't even try to compete with one. How long do you think your combo is going to last with a Bobcat hooked to it "always" as you put it? Since you are digging up replys from 2 weeks ago, maybe go back and read Challenger1's post while you are at it.
Your customer would be better off picking up this $750.00 V10 out of the used section on here and do a full swap. Everything is there, and it's one of the few gas engines made to pull things like his Bobcat that won't wind up cooked on the side of the road. Factory, right?
You're welcome.
Mo' Farts
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Re: SB towing engine thoughts...
[Re: Grizzly]
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01/31/15 06:50 PM
01/31/15 06:50 PM
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HotRodDave
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A 97 12 valve made 440 TQ @ 1500 RPM. I don't see why that is un reasonable to expect that at a little higher RPM, not like you could even use that TQ at 1500 because the converter stalls more like 2000.
BTW I have 2 V10s complete sitting in my shop ready for swaps, he did not like the mpg of the one he had. No reason I could not coax more MPG out of this engine when un-sadled from emmisions controls allowing more compression, better cam and I can run tighter quench a better flowing exhaust, less friction and one day when he can afford another cummins this motor will make a good swap (with a bigger cam)into a 68-69 dart.
BTW we are swapping a Dana 70 and bigger leafs and over loads. We are looking for a 3/4 4x4 front, the matching one for the rear has the driveshaft on the oposite side meaning more work than I want to fool with.
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Re: SB towing engine thoughts...
[Re: d-150]
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02/01/15 12:29 PM
02/01/15 12:29 PM
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Leon441
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I like what you are trying to do. You will need extreme cooling measures to the engine and torque converter. Sounds like the haters are not seeing the potential of torque with RPM.
I've owned a V10 pulled like crazy right off the bump. That you can get with a sb stroker. 8mpg towing big enclosed when you kept it under 60. Towed with 360 blew it up screaming it up a hill. My 440 puuled great with the right combo. Got rid of it only because the truck was a rust bucket.
I love my diesel but writing on boost and maintenance is a shortcoming. Overall you can't beat the million mile engine. But, I think a stroker small block can do the job. Many small blocks did it for years. I would highly recommend Doug thorley tri-Y headers. Huge difference on the 440.
Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.
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Re: SB towing engine thoughts...
[Re: Leon441]
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02/14/15 02:51 AM
02/14/15 02:51 AM
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So it is running, pulls like a freight train when the carb is co-operating, we are trying to use his 650 Thunder-series AVS but it was very lean and put the biggest jets and smallest rods we could find in it and it is still lean but all the bogging is gone. We tried a friends 650 double pumper and it really woke up so now he wants to get a new carb, looking at this one for the tunability and a little more air than the 650 for a few more RPM. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/qft-ss-750-an/overview/What do you guys think? Ended up a hair under 10 to 1. 218@.050 109 LSA, R/T heads cleaned up a little, cheapy headers dual 2.5 exhaust. .031 quench, 416 cubes. It seems to pull a lot harder with a 1 inch open spacer.
I am not causing global warming, I am just trying to hold off a impending Ice Age!
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