Re: Stupid Street Outlaw question for you.......
[Re: 590 Challenger]
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I am sure there are many groups of street drag racers around the country. As shown in previous shows guy's from Texas and illinois. What's coming up in future shows i do not know. Do you know of any Street racer Mopars out there that would be candidates for the show? Don't get me wrong , I race Mopar, never raced any other brand in 40 plus years, even did the street racing thing back in the 60"s I just don't see a street /race Mopar making the list. Just my opinion just like you have yours. And will continue to
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Re: Stupid Street Outlaw question for you.......
[Re: bigtimeauto]
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01/10/15 03:09 PM
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Why does the S10 do so good? Wheelbase. It's riding on a 125" wheelbase where the rest are on 110" - 115", and it DOES make a difference.
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Re: Stupid Street Outlaw question for you.......
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01/10/15 03:12 PM
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The"Chicago" race did not happen in Chicago, it happened in St. Charles county Missouri, and they waited until the rains came in before trying to race. Remember, it's their show and they hold all the cards, and if things aren't going their way, then here comes the scripted drama.
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Re: Stupid Street Outlaw question for you.......
[Re: 70VcodeCoronetRT]
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01/10/15 04:00 PM
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I've watched this show...sporadically...and really not impressed with the cars or the participants....I've seen guys from Philly and Brooklyn that would put these guys to shame, Mopar or not. Being from both sides of the aisle (street and strip), a well thought out Mopar will more than likely blow all these guys off their so called "list". But that's with any car. It has to be well thought out for the purpose. And that's MY ....
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Re: Stupid Street Outlaw question for you.......
[Re: njdevil2]
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01/10/15 05:15 PM
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It's all about the chassis set up. Has little to do with hp. If they were so bad ass they would show up at one of the big heads up events with their cars/trucks. Instead they are there walking around all cocky and stuck up. I saw Daddy Dave in Georgia without his truck. I've been to Tulsa and none of them or their cars were there. I'll run anyone of them for 10k on a prepped track with N/T on my windshield. The streets they are racing on are fairly well prepped. There's alot of rubber down on every starting line they show on tv. It's a show and things are not all as it appears. Yes they have some bad rides for sure but not as bad as you might think for what's under the hood. And Farm truck won't run a 5 anything! Bet that!
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Re: Stupid Street Outlaw question for you.......
[Re: W8n2DustU]
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01/10/15 05:30 PM
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Electronics and big tires. Between the nitrous controller technology, boost controller technology, and new efi systems that have integrated traction control, that's really what makes them fast on the street. Oversized stiff wall slicks and preping the road helps as well. I really hate holding conversations with alot of track racers who think they can pull their bracket car out and think they will go drag them around, I find that very ignorant. Those cars are no joke, I belive the s10 went 6.50 (1/4) like 4 or 5 years ago. I bet the slowest car on the list might go 5.2-5.0 in the 1/8 on a bad pass. One of the local guys railed Lutz in his car 2 years ago at the arm drop drags on a 26x8.5 tire. Granted he spun, but a win is a win. http://youtu.be/rodSbV4ORkUThey are fast and your average race car won't get it done without alot of testing and dollars.
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Re: Stupid Street Outlaw question for you.......
[Re: bigtimeauto]
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01/10/15 06:39 PM
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It's all about the chassis set up. Has little to do with hp. If they were so bad ass they would show up at one of the big heads up events with their cars/trucks. Instead they are there walking around all cocky and stuck up. I saw Daddy Dave in Georgia without his truck. I've been to Tulsa and none of them or their cars were there. I'll run anyone of them for 10k on a prepped track with N/T on my windshield. The streets they are racing on are fairly well prepped. There's alot of rubber down on every starting line they show on tv. It's a show and things are not all as it appears. Yes they have some bad rides for sure but not as bad as you might think for what's under the hood. And Farm truck won't run a 5 anything! Bet that!
I say bullcrap, Monte will farm truck run 5s? thats only a low 9 second pass
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Re: Stupid Street Outlaw question for you.......
[Re: Slingshot383]
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01/10/15 06:48 PM
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The"Chicago" race did not happen in Chicago, it happened in St. Charles county Missouri, and they waited until the rains came in before trying to race. Remember, it's their show and they hold all the cards, and if things aren't going their way, then here comes the scripted drama.
This is 100% wrong. The Chicago race took place on Schweitzer Rd, the road that runs between Route 66 raceway and Chicagoland Speedway, just south of Joliet IL.
This picture was taken the next day, and you can clearly see the dragstrip and dirt track grandstands in the far left of the picture.
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Re: Stupid Street Outlaw question for you.......
[Re: W8n2DustU]
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It's all about the chassis set up. Has little to do with hp. If they were so bad ass they would show up at one of the big heads up events with their cars/trucks. Instead they are there walking around all cocky and stuck up. I saw Daddy Dave in Georgia without his truck. I've been to Tulsa and none of them or their cars were there. I'll run anyone of them for 10k on a prepped track with N/T on my windshield. The streets they are racing on are fairly well prepped. There's alot of rubber down on every starting line they show on tv. It's a show and things are not all as it appears. Yes they have some bad rides for sure but not as bad as you might think for what's under the hood. And Farm truck won't run a 5 anything! Bet that!
I always find this type stuff humorous.......so why, would they bring their cars, which are setup for the STREET to a heads up event, prepped for radials.......why would they do that. They KNOW they would get their asses handed to them and they will tell you that..............BUT, you take your RACE car out there and run them in THEIR environment, you are likely to get humbled VERY quickly. What a car runs on the track, means very little as to what it will do on a public street, whether it has some rubber on it or not.
And when I said above that 6 of the cars on the list will run sub 5 sec ETs.........that is NOT what they run at the TRACK. That is what they run ON THE STREET, when they make good clean passes. And the reason I say this, is because I KNOW this. I have seen the data. Not rocket science to lay a street graph, on top of a race track graph, where you know the ET it ran and compare the data.
These guys are NOT setup for track racing. The cars have lots of bite, lots of rear percentage and loose suspension. NONE of which is condusive to stellar ETs on a prepped track..........but does it work on the street.........yes it does. Long list of guys who think it's easy and are going to go out there and show the "Outlaws" what's what. Funny thing is........it hasn't happened yet.
Jeff Lutz told me face to face, that when he went out there, he left the same tune in the 57 that had just gone 6.80s at 215 in Baytown and that it made a surprisingly clean pass down the street. The Sonoma marched away from him on the street..........That's pretty fast.
Bottom line, you think you got what it takes to "show them"........all you have to do......is go do it
Chads Buick has a 5.0 bore space motor. We run 4 teens on radials. I could put Doc's motor in our car and probably go 4.20s-.30s as his stuff is not quite as good as ours. Now, am I saying Doc's car should go that fast at the track if properly setup.......maybe, if it was setup right and at the same weight as us......but it's NOT and it WON'T. What I AM saying though, is we take Chad's Buick out there, even with 10.5 slicks on it and we are going to have a BAD day on the street..........On BIG tires, might be a different story, but that's a moot point, because that is not what we have
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Re: Stupid Street Outlaw question for you.......
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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01/10/15 08:54 PM
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It's all about the chassis set up. Has little to do with hp. If they were so bad ass they would show up at one of the big heads up events with their cars/trucks. Instead they are there walking around all cocky and stuck up. I saw Daddy Dave in Georgia without his truck. I've been to Tulsa and none of them or their cars were there. I'll run anyone of them for 10k on a prepped track with N/T on my windshield. The streets they are racing on are fairly well prepped. There's alot of rubber down on every starting line they show on tv. It's a show and things are not all as it appears. Yes they have some bad rides for sure but not as bad as you might think for what's under the hood. And Farm truck won't run a 5 anything! Bet that!
I always find this type stuff humorous.......so why, would they bring their cars, which are setup for the STREET to a heads up event, prepped for radials.......why would they do that. They KNOW they would get their asses handed to them and they will tell you that..............BUT, you take your RACE car out there and run them in THEIR environment, you are likely to get humbled VERY quickly. What a car runs on the track, means very little as to what it will do on a public street, whether it has some rubber on it or not.
And when I said above that 6 of the cars on the list will run sub 5 sec ETs.........that is NOT what they run at the TRACK. That is what they run ON THE STREET, when they make good clean passes. And the reason I say this, is because I KNOW this. I have seen the data. Not rocket science to lay a street graph, on top of a race track graph, where you know the ET it ran and compare the data.
These guys are NOT setup for track racing. The cars have lots of bite, lots of rear percentage and loose suspension. NONE of which is condusive to stellar ETs on a prepped track..........but does it work on the street.........yes it does. Long list of guys who think it's easy and are going to go out there and show the "Outlaws" what's what. Funny thing is........it hasn't happened yet.
Jeff Lutz told me face to face, that when he went out there, he left the same tune in the 57 that had just gone 6.80s at 215 in Baytown and that it made a surprisingly clean pass down the street. The Sonoma marched away from him on the street..........That's pretty fast.
Bottom line, you think you got what it takes to "show them"........all you have to do......is go do it
Chads Buick has a 5.0 bore space motor. We run 4 teens on radials. I could put Doc's motor in our car and probably go 4.20s-.30s as his stuff is not quite as good as ours. Now, am I saying Doc's car should go that fast at the track if properly setup.......maybe, if it was setup right and at the same weight as us......but it's NOT and it WON'T. What I AM saying though, is we take Chad's Buick out there, even with 10.5 slicks on it and we are going to have a BAD day on the street..........On BIG tires, might be a different story, but that's a moot point, because that is not what we have
Monte Is the street racing all they do,they do not run any other kind of racing? Question only I was just wondering if they put that much $$$ in there cars just to do there Out-Law Street Racing.There is nothing wrong with it I sure you know as well as I do there are a lot of Grudge Race cars with just as much $$$ tied up in them. I like the show and will either tape it are watch it there entire season!
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