Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
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Menscer is the man. if I had the money and if I had a real race car, that is where I would spend it.
I don't get it you spend over 1500 on a overdrive but won't even consider 800 for some custom shocks. It's the only piece that controls your suspension.
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
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I plan on the Menscer upgrade with my afco DAs .
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
[Re: sixpackgut]
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Menscer is the man. if I had the money and if I had a real race car, that is where I would spend it.
I don't get it you spend over 1500 on a overdrive but won't even consider 800 for some custom shocks. It's the only piece that controls your suspension.
I would spend $1500 on air conditioning before I spent that kind of money on shocks. if you ever drivin your car 440 miles in 120*+ heat in one day it might be easier to understand that. your car is way faster then mine, but I probably log a lot more miles than you. add up the cycles on your valve springs at 600 rpm less for 8 hours of driving. I have to pick and choose my battles and the GV was a deal
you are getting old I see
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
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Menscer is the man. if I had the money and if I had a real race car, that is where I would spend it.
I don't get it you spend over 1500 on a overdrive but won't even consider 800 for some custom shocks. It's the only piece that controls your suspension.
I would spend $1500 on air conditioning before I spent that kind of money on shocks. if you ever drivin your car 440 miles in 120*+ heat in one day it might be easier to understand that. your car is way faster then mine, but I probably log a lot more miles than you. add up the cycles on your valve springs at 600 rpm less for 8 hours of driving. I have to pick and choose my battles and the GV was a deal
Oh I agree with you on GV for what you do, wouldn't even think about going with out one. The most I have logged on my car in one day is 150 miles and boy I wish I had ac too. I just don't get why you are so dead set against good shocks. What you spend on your new shocks $320 so for 480 more you get some custom built for your car. You didn't have a problem giving thumper money to customize your carb. But it is your money and your car and your choice. Just was one of the best things I did to my car, made it fun at the track again.
I'm not convinced the viking are crap. best shocks I have ever bought. Really, my car is so slow, it hooks in a mud puddle. what I really wanted out of a set of shocks is to be able to adjust them for street driving. with the calvert 90/10s, if you hit a dip in the road, the shock extends and stays extended. Now, if it happens to both front tires at the same time, not so bad, but when you have one front wheel that extends the shock and the other is still at normal ride height it upsets the car. I want my street car the best that it can be for what I can afford. The front shocks were a xmas present from my GF and I spent about the same on her. as for the afcos, I have read all the threads on yellowbullet, yes they work great but only when Menscer does his thing. Thumper doing my carb was a 2 tenths upgrade and probably better gas milage I don't know how to respond to that
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
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Menscer is the man. if I had the money and if I had a real race car, that is where I would spend it.
I don't get it you spend over 1500 on a overdrive but won't even consider 800 for some custom shocks. It's the only piece that controls your suspension.
I would spend $1500 on air conditioning before I spent that kind of money on shocks. if you ever drivin your car 440 miles in 120*+ heat in one day it might be easier to understand that. your car is way faster then mine, but I probably log a lot more miles than you. add up the cycles on your valve springs at 600 rpm less for 8 hours of driving. I have to pick and choose my battles and the GV was a deal
you are getting old I see
yes, it sucks
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
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From Ray, I'd like to see back to back testing with the old shocks vs the new shocks. One hit on the old setup, and then as many passes as can be had to dial in the new set, and see how the new ones compare. If he spent the money on DA Afco's someone would say he should have spent more for Penske's...
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
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From Ray, I'd like to see back to back testing with the old shocks vs the new shocks. One hit on the old setup, and then as many passes as can be had to dial in the new set, and see how the new ones compare. If he spent the money on DA Afco's someone would say he should have spent more for Penske's...
Jeff
I still have the old shocks and that would be easy to do. But like I said, my car is slow 1.4 60s and hooks and goes. I rarely ever spin and my tires are 6 years old because I bought them used from a 4 second car before I ever built my car. I really doubt I will see it pick up or slow down from the shock change
also I would like to make note, I know my place in this world, a 10.00 street car is what I can afford. I confess that I am one of those guys that hates taking out beautiful seatbelts because of the sfi sticker and the extra safety stuff below 10.0 is just more money that I could use for other fun stuff
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
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From Ray, I'd like to see back to back testing with the old shocks vs the new shocks. One hit on the old setup, and then as many passes as can be had to dial in the new set, and see how the new ones compare. If he spent the money on DA Afco's someone would say he should have spent more for Penske's...
Jeff
I still have the old shocks and that would be easy to do. But like I said, my car is slow 1.4 60s and hooks and goes. I rarely ever spin and my tires are 6 years old because I bought them used from a 4 second car before I ever built my car. I really doubt I will see it pick up or slow down from the shock change
also I would like to make note, I know my place in this world, a 10.00 street car is what I can afford. I confess that I am one of those guys that hates taking out beautiful seatbelts because of the sfi sticker and the extra safety stuff below 10.0 is just more money that I could use for other fun stuff
It will depend on the aggressiveness of your chassis setup. Our car is a low 10sec bracket car and we've been high 1.3's before but with more front end control, our car will be capable of bottom 1.30 60's I think without being so aggressive that it won't repeat. Right now if we get too aggressive, the car wants to go into a significant wheelstand which is wasted motion. Hopefully, with the afco's, I can get the car to leave like Scott Gove or Paul Ricci
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
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... Can't help but wonder what guys like Dick Landy ran for shocks back in the 60s-70s
In the late '60s Landy used high mileage (i.e. nearly worn out) OEM front shocks and C-body or truck-spec OEM rear shocks, depending on whether it was an auto or 4-speed trans.
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
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I'm thinking about a shock upgrade myself so I'm keeping an eye on these shock threads. Calvert fronts & 9 way Ranchos now. Can't help but wonder what guys like Dick Landy ran for shocks back in the 60s-70s
They used JUNK.... the BIGGEST jumps in performance in the last 35 years has been shocks and tires
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
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I'm thinking about a shock upgrade myself so I'm keeping an eye on these shock threads. Calvert fronts & 9 way Ranchos now. Can't help but wonder what guys like Dick Landy ran for shocks back in the 60s-70s
They used JUNK.... the BIGGEST jumps in performance in the last 35 years has been shocks and tires
Wow, I usually just lurk around here.....but that is one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen.......
Pro-stocks have went from 8.50's at 155 mph in 1980....to 6.50 at 212 mph.....so 2 seconds and near 60 mph improvement...is mostly from shocks and tires.....wow.....
I'll take the 6.50 212mph car and throw 1980 shocks and tires on it.....I bet it would still run 7's at close to 200 mph.....
Throw some current shocks and tires on a 1980 Pro-stocker and I bet it doesn't pick up much......maybe a few tenths and probably no mph.....
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
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I'm thinking about a shock upgrade myself so I'm keeping an eye on these shock threads. Calvert fronts & 9 way Ranchos now. Can't help but wonder what guys like Dick Landy ran for shocks back in the 60s-70s
They used JUNK.... the BIGGEST jumps in performance in the last 35 years has been shocks and tires
Wow, I usually just lurk around here.....but that is one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen.......
Pro-stocks have went from 8.50's at 155 mph in 1980....to 6.50 at 212 mph.....so 2 seconds and near 60 mph improvement...is mostly from shocks and tires.....wow.....
I'll take the 6.50 212mph car and throw 1980 shocks and tires on it.....I bet it would still run 7's at close to 200 mph.....
Throw some current shocks and tires on a 1980 Pro-stocker and I bet it doesn't pick up much......maybe a few tenths and probably no mph.....
Oh well.... try it and see... if you dont think that the biggest gains arent from shocks and tires you better go rethink it... they have had plenty of power
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Re: Feedback on Viking double adjust shock ?
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I'm thinking about a shock upgrade myself so I'm keeping an eye on these shock threads. Calvert fronts & 9 way Ranchos now. Can't help but wonder what guys like Dick Landy ran for shocks back in the 60s-70s
They used JUNK.... the BIGGEST jumps in performance in the last 35 years has been shocks and tires
Wow, I usually just lurk around here.....but that is one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen.......
Pro-stocks have went from 8.50's at 155 mph in 1980....to 6.50 at 212 mph.....so 2 seconds and near 60 mph improvement...is mostly from shocks and tires.....wow.....
I'll take the 6.50 212mph car and throw 1980 shocks and tires on it.....I bet it would still run 7's at close to 200 mph.....
Throw some current shocks and tires on a 1980 Pro-stocker and I bet it doesn't pick up much......maybe a few tenths and probably no mph.....
Oh well.... try it and see... if you dont think that the biggest gains arent from shocks and tires you better go rethink it... they have had plenty of power
Wow, you continue to amaze.....you are standing by your statement....I am speechless
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