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FORD 8.8 REAR................ #1702524
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So what`s the deal on these in Mopars and how tough and how much $$$$$......................


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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................ [Re: Thumperdart] #1702525
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Great rear axels from what I hear. Cheap too. Id consider the change myself.

Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................ [Re: Sport440] #1702526
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Take less power to run also.


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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................ [Re: 440W8 Duster] #1702527
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5x4.5 bolt pattern, correct width with disc brakes for $200? Easy to buy and install. Simple logic for some people on a budget. Tim


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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................ [Re: Thumperdart] #1702528
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Cheap, somewhat light and plentiful is about it.
Standard oem equipment for your "notch" mustang small tire racer. (Basic source of popularity)
Very simular to a 12 bolt chevy, but not as strong. Thin wall, small diameter axle tubes that bend easy, taper tube ends, c-clip axle retention.
To really make something out of one of these requires as much work and $$ as anything else and in some cases more..

Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................ [Re: Jerry Kathe] #1702529
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Cheap, somewhat light and plentiful is about it.
Standard oem equipment for your "notch" mustang small tire racer. (Basic source of popularity)
Very simular to a 12 bolt chevy, but not as strong. Thin wall, small diameter axle tubes that bend easy, taper tube ends, c-clip axle retention.
To really make something out of one of these requires as much work and $$ as anything else and in some cases more..




Thaught I`d ask but figured it was too good 2 be true...........


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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................ [Re: Thumperdart] #1702530
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If you are going to spend money on an "upgraded" rear for your car.......that is NOT the one to start with. May as well use a 12 bolt

Monte

Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................ [Re: Thumperdart] #1702531
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don't waste your time, go straight to a 9"

Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................ [Re: Quicktree] #1702532
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We used to do a lot of 8.8s where I used to work. One thing you always had to check was the tube ends. We found a lot of them welded on crooked from the factory.


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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................ [Re: slantzilla] #1702533
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Guess I got my answers..............don`t know anything about em and was curious and don`t want a Dana under my car.


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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................ [Re: Thumperdart] #1702534
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If your looking for a change..just do a 9".
Parts are plentiful and they can be built light and strong.

Back in '96 I was doing all the stuff on a competitive comp eliminator car when the drop out 12 bolt centers sections for the 9" fords were introduced by strange. We built one and plugged it in only to be disappointed with absolutely no change anywhere in performance.....only a big dent in the budget. So fwiw....there you go.

Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................ [Re: Jerry Kathe] #1702535
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If your looking for a change..just do a 9".
Parts are plentiful and they can be built light and strong.

Back in '96 I was doing all the stuff on a competitive comp eliminator car when the drop out 12 bolt centers sections for the 9" fords were introduced by strange. We built one and plugged it in only to be disappointed with absolutely no change anywhere in performance.....only a big dent in the budget. So fwiw....there you go.






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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................ [Re: Thumperdart] #1702536
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I have the perfect 9" Strange center section for you. 4.10 gears and a Lenco billet locker. brand new

Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................ [Re: Thumperdart] #1702537
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The easy "hot ticket" to find is the 8.8 out of an Explorer that came with the factory Discs and a Factory Auburn 3.73 or 4.10 Posi. The explorers also came with 31 spline axles and with rear discs/Calipers you don't have to worry about C clip eliminators on a street car unless you're running 10.99 or quicker IIRC....unless you switched to drums of course (for whatever reason).

And you can both shorten the 59.5" width AND center the pinion by shortening the longer tube 3" and using 2 of the shorter side axles. You wind up with a 56.5" end to end which is perfect for A bodys and narrowed B/E's.

Not what I'd put in a track only car but for a street/strip car it's tough to beat, not that they're so great it's just that it seems what people are asking for even 'run of the mill" open 8 3/4 Hogs heads and housings is getting pricey enough that you might consider other options.

Stephen Daurity talked me into putting an Explorer 8.8 in my 66 Valiant Wagon, if he says they're strong enough that's good enough for me.

We're going to perimeter weld the axle tubes once it's all back together for extra strength.

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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................ [Re: Quicktree] #1702538
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I have the perfect 9" Strange center section for you. 4.10 gears and a Lenco billet locker. brand new




I WISH Quick but it`s just not in the cards right now but SOON if things keep improving. Not sure on the width on mine but it`s stock unit out of a 70 something Duster.


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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................ [Re: Thumperdart] #1702539
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A coworker is running a 8.8 in his Drag Radial Mustang. Has a 632 BBC running 8.30's. I personally wouldn't run one at that speed, but it has held up for him.

Jeff


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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................ [Re: JERICOGTX] #1702540
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A coworker is running a 8.8 in his Drag Radial Mustang. Has a 632 BBC running 8.30's. I personally wouldn't run one at that speed, but it has held up for him.

Jeff




Seems crazy fast unless he spared no expense I guess..............


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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................ [Re: Thumperdart] #1702541
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Why not a Dana 60 dom?


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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................ [Re: Thumperdart] #1702542
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Dom, I put an explorer 8.8 rear in my 65 street Dart. I found a 3.55 ratio rear with discs. Along with checking the gears, look at the axles for wear where the grease seal rides next to the outer wheel bearing. Also, there can be wear on the pinion seal area. There are repair sleeves to fix this for the pinion, and special bearings that move the seal for the axle problem. Be sure and grab the Metric bolts for the companion flange and also the driveshaft flange if the thing was torched off at the bone yard. That way you might save some $$ for a drive shaft build. The brake lines are similar and if I recall I used two passenger side rubber lines from an 8.8 and a couple of 1/8 steel lines from Auto Zone to hook to the stock Mopar single line from the MC. I would think the Explorer axle tubes are plenty stout, and memory serves me right they are 3 1/4 inch diameter. You might want to weld them to the center section though, just for grins, or if you run slicks.
Be sure and spend the $$ for the best rear you can find, as I didn't, and the repair costs added up real fast.


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Re: FORD 8.8 REAR................ [Re: gregsdart] #1702543
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a lot of guys down here are using Toyota Hilux ute diffs . Supposed to be a poor mans 9" . Lots of ratio choices and aftermarket parts .
5 x 4.5" pattern too .

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