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Re: 1965 Coronet/Belvedere real weights [Re: 383man] #1700559
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Anyone happen to have an extra pair of headliner stretcher brackets to weigh on the scale?

These are the ones with the built in spikes to keep the headliner up and tight.

Re: 1965 Coronet/Belvedere real weights [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1700560
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Like i said my car was 3050 to 3100 gutted but the 64 cars could get lighter. Aluminum hood, fenders, doors, bumpers-brackets, door hinges then do the AFX package, stainless ateel k-frame,remove vent windows and the cranks, plexaglass back and front glass and side windows, gutted fiberglass dash no heater two van seats with aluminum brackets no back seats plus other hidden parts and these cars where close to 2800 lbs. All these things where factory available at that time and used. But if you want a street car with all the luxuries you got a barge, adds up quick.

Re: 1965 Coronet/Belvedere real weights [Re: cudaman1969] #1700561
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My Savoy went across the scales at Norwalk last year with my 200# butt in the seat at 3610#
Iron block
Aluminum heads,water pump/housing
60# of flywheel/clutch assy. 35# steel clutch can
113# Richmond 5-speed
Dana 60 with spool(much lighter than the coffee can Power-Lock)
Drum brakes all around(lighter than factory disc setup)

I will be adding about 150# this winter with a roll bar in anticipation of my favorite local track reopening next year with all concrete full 1/4 mile
Gus


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Re: 1965 Coronet/Belvedere real weights [Re: fourgearsavoy] #1700562
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thanks Gus ,
they are the numbers I would like/hope to see - 100/150lbs lighter than my 68 . It does seem the Plymouths are always a little lighter than the Dodges

Tex


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Re: 1965 Coronet/Belvedere real weights [Re: tex013] #1700563
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You know another thing with my 63 Tex is that its the top of the line model as its the Sport Fury and it has all the chrome mlds and all the extra's as really for a race car you would go for the Savoy in 63 as its was the low line model and the lightest with the least amount of extra's on it. Couse I love the looks with the extra mlds and all and its a street car not an all out race car looking to set a record. Ron

Re: 1965 Coronet/Belvedere real weights [Re: 383man] #1700564
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How much heavier were the wagons?


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Re: 1965 Coronet/Belvedere real weights [Re: tex013] #1700565
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Is there much difference in weight between a low optioned hardtop Belvedere & Savoy?

Re: 1965 Coronet/Belvedere real weights [Re: Triggerfish] #1700566
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about 40-50 Lbs on the body alone from Hardtop to Post sedan. Reinforcements on hardt's for strength in absence of the B-post as well as a heavier,larger shaped rear window.
Sedans strength comes from their boxed triangular shape. Sought of like a gusseted box.
Another maybe 15-25 lbs on trim exterior and interior and other amenities. Consoles included.

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Re: 1965 Coronet/Belvedere real weights [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1700567
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Thanks for that info. Only option on my 64 was a heater, so still pretty light compared to later B bodies.

Re: 1965 Coronet/Belvedere real weights [Re: Triggerfish] #1700568
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My car is a hardtop plus its a 500 with all the trim and a/c. Maybe thats where the extra girth comes from.


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Re: 1965 Coronet/Belvedere real weights [Re: CKessel] #1700569
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500's were/are some of the heaviest of the early B's. Pretty cars though.
By the way, keep in mind that the 64' B's are just a couple or so inches longer and a half or so inch wider than the 65's. That with a slew of bigger elaborate front bumpers make for some extra pounds.

The 62' are the smallest, but open for debate on their handsomeness or lack of it. I personally love them all.
63's are in between with the weight but start to look fantastic.

These days, someones gotta take what ever comes on the plate whether it's a hardtop or Post. They are becoming harder if not, impossible to find in great shape unless of course, if you go raid Mosher's stash out West. LOL.

Re: 1965 Coronet/Belvedere real weights [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1700570
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Quote:

500's were/are some of the heaviest of the early B's. Pretty cars though.
By the way, keep in mind that the 64' B's are just a couple or so inches longer and a half or so inch wider than the 65's. That with a slew of bigger elaborate front bumpers make for some extra pounds.

The 62' are the smallest, but open for debate on their handsomeness or lack of it. I personally love them all.
63's are in between with the weight but start to look fantastic.

These days, someones gotta take what ever comes on the plate whether it's a hardtop or Post. They are becoming harder if not, impossible to find in great shape unless of course, if you go raid Mosher's stash out West. LOL.


x2, well said.

Re: 1965 Coronet/Belvedere real weights [Re: lewtot184] #1700571
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I can't tell you guys the weights, but my friends just had fun this weekend!
I couldn't make it...
This was the final!

Re: 1965 Coronet/Belvedere real weights [Re: RodStRace] #1700572
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3120 w/o me. All steel including bumpers, except hood. 2 batteries, Mega block, 2 carbs, fire system. Like Lee says you can get them light. I positive I could get below 3000lbs if I wanted.
Doug

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Re: 1965 Coronet/Belvedere real weights [Re: dvw] #1700573
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DVW and I are seemingly neck and neck on the weight race. I think doing anymore to his car would disturb the beauty already in place. But if and when he decides, I'll be happy to share my Felix the cats magic bag of tricks as he probably would as well in the quest to break the 3000 LBS mark.

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Re: 1965 Coronet/Belvedere real weights [Re: dvw] #1700574
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3120 w/o me. All steel including bumpers, except hood. 2 batteries, Mega block, 2 carbs, fire system. Like Lee says you can get them light. I positive I could get below 3000lbs if I wanted.
Doug



What can i say, my favorite car. Very nice, it can get lighter with out messing with the looks

Re: 1965 Coronet/Belvedere real weights [Re: cudaman1969] #1700575
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The glass, the Bumpers in aluminum (expensive) and probably not to much more with out looking obvious which will not net the 120 pds to get there. Chemical milling on smaller unpainted parts not seen on the outside won't take too much neither. Anyway, there's another extensive forum on that subject as we all know.

Re: 1965 Coronet/Belvedere real weights [Re: dvw] #1700576
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Hey Doug, what color is your 64? It looks like what I had in mind for my 64 Savoy wagon. Toxic Orange


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