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Re: What to Build to compete with a SR20 BBC
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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11/13/14 04:01 PM
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Guitar Jones
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Steve Schmidt also gives a one year warranty on those Engines as long as You don't take them apart 
This is true and a great selling point. Had a few Mopar guys out here convert to them in their Mopar cars. I will say the dyno numbers seem to be pretty inflated on them however. None of the cars I have seen converter to Schmidt power perform anywhere near what they dyno numbers are. Most are going no faster than they were with the Mopar motors they have. I mean come on I know of a certain Schmidt 655 in an ex pro stock car weighing 2200lbs that only manages 7.30's at sea level and 7.50's here. That is a LONG way from 1430hp..And I know of at least 4 others with similar results.
I don't know, but I do know that a check book won't increase your talent level. Just ask McGaha.
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Re: What to Build to compete with a SR20 BBC
[Re: Guitar Jones]
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11/13/14 04:11 PM
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Al_Alguire
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Oh I got Mcgaha stories too  Had a couple friends that worked there for a couple years. As for the Schmidt HP claims I think it is a pretty well known deal. Those things just do not live up to the claims. Oh yeah as for competing with an SR deal in a Mopar. Forgetaboutit!!
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Re: What to Build to compete with a SR20 BBC
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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11/13/14 04:24 PM
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Guitar Jones
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Oh I got Mcgaha stories too Had a couple friends that worked there for a couple years.
I can only imagine what the atmosphere must be like in that shop. No thank you. 
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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Re: What to Build to compete with a SR20 BBC
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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11/15/14 09:33 PM
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Al_Alguire
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Sorry missed the iron part. They only do aluminum.
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Re: What to Build to compete with a SR20 BBC
[Re: B1MAXX]
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11/16/14 05:25 PM
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Wouldn't 4.5 x 4.5 make more torque .... Horsepower is tq x rpm right? Is there a head that's gets this combo to 950-1000 ft/lbs range. Then 6400rpm = 1157-1218hp. Don't beat me up, this all just got me thinking.  I would think 975 ft/lbs would be better than 883ft/lbs. Then you would have to gear for lower rpm and more wheel speed. There is more to it than head cfm and dyno numbers. Heck I'd hate to see a racetrack full of guys standing around with a set of cylinder heads and dyno sheet.
A 572" B-1 motor that makes 1200hp at 6400 rpm..........damn baby, sign me up for one of them.........LOL!!!
Any yes, there IS more to it than cfm and dyno numbers............but ONE thing is constant. You want to make power, you have to move air and a lot of it. A smaller bore is never going to be condusive to flowing more air with a high flowing cylinder head. Air speed is important, but not at the cost of volume. There has to be a good balance.
As already talked about, the HEMI head has the cfm capability in the head to do this, but to make it flow enough air to make the required power, you will have to spin it to the moon.
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Re: What to Build to compete with a SR20 BBC
[Re: Mpetros]
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11/18/14 01:10 AM
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Talk to Tony at BES he would be the one to get you closest to your goal.
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Re: What to Build to compete with a SR20 BBC
[Re: Mpetros]
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11/18/14 02:26 PM
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Rumor Koleno was going to start making Blocks..Any Truth? Maybe with enough interest they would make a Iron 4.840 BS Block
No reason..........there is no good head to put on it
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