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Re: 1971 Charger - Was this combo possible? [Re: bee1971] #1684144
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Would have to see the fender tags or broadcast sheet to verify

Anyone can paint chrome bumpers or add







What if it was "dealer installed" back in the day?

Re: 1971 Charger - Was this combo possible? [Re: DAYCLONA] #1684145
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What if it was ??? Still never left the factory that way

And that is a 1972 hidden headlamp / front bumper set up


We all know the 71 Superbee couldn't bee ordered with the 440 magnum , but yet 26 left the factory

So

Anything is possible , we all know that. But let's see it on a legit fender tag / broadcast


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Re: 1971 Charger - Was this combo possible? [Re: bee1971] #1684146
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Anything is possible





Which has been proven time and time again...

And documentation isn't airtight, either...


Many things left the factory 'unofficially'...

At least in these parts...

Re: 1971 Charger - Was this combo possible? [Re: RSNOMO] #1684147
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Anything is possible





Which has been proven time and time again...

And documentation isn't airtight, either...


Many things left the factory 'unofficially'...

At least in these parts...









The "factory" was toying with the idea back in the day as evident by this "factory photo"

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Re: 1971 Charger - Was this combo possible? [Re: DAYCLONA] #1684148
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just adding a note and a thought...

is not the same just PAINT the bumper, than add ELASTOMERIC layer. Just talking about because the "posible reason" theory posted by Mike about why they weren't optioned together and the pics posted try to beat that theory.

not saying if it was that reason or not, I can't tell it really, but there is some logic on that


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Re: 1971 Charger - Was this combo possible? [Re: DAYCLONA] #1684149
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Cool Picture


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Re: 1971 Charger - Was this combo possible? [Re: NachoRT74] #1684150
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This stuff was applied or sprayed over the steel core correct ?
Not over the chrome

I have seen these bumpers. The rubber coating is really not that thick. Am I missing something


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Re: 1971 Charger - Was this combo possible? [Re: bee1971] #1684151
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yeap, that's the 71 concept pic


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Re: 1971 Charger - Was this combo possible? [Re: NachoRT74] #1684152
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It may have been due to multiple manufacturer parts & their stack-up tolerances for an adequate fit.
..... or possibly to reduce the number of sub-assemblies on the production lines to accommodate all possible combinations that were built as sub-assemblies.
..... or a marketing call, no-one wants a chrome grill in a car they just ordered with de-chromed bumpers.

Why aren't there black, gold, etc. "rubber bumpers"? Same answer!

Re: 1971 Charger - Was this combo possible? [Re: bee1971] #1684153
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This stuff was applied or sprayed over the steel core correct ?
Not over the chrome

I have seen these bumpers. The rubber coating is really not that thick.





Correct...

Re: 1971 Charger - Was this combo possible? [Re: 6bblgt] #1684154
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Why aren't there black, gold, etc. "rubber bumpers"? Same answer!





Don't know about production issues regarding this, but as far as Elastomeric color availability...


Why FC-7 Elastomeric color available on '71 Ply E-Bodies, but not on '71 Ply B-bodies???


This 'color availability' thing is murky...

I've heard of E-bodies out there with rubber bumpers sprayed in 'non-available' colors...

Don't see any reason why it couldn't have been done outside the listings in the crash book...

Never say never, again...

Re: 1971 Charger - Was this combo possible? [Re: RSNOMO] #1684155
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FC7 was the #3 color on the '70 'Cuda (BS23 & BS27)
FC7 was the #10 color on the '70 GTX (RS23)

sorry I don't have '70 RR numbers (anyone have the Option & Accessory Report?)

it's all about the money someone had to place the minimum order for (WAG) 500 pieces, and didn't want to be in that June 1, 1971 meeting "why do we still have 400 of these FC7 Plymouth b-body bumpers on the shelf?"

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It would've had to be a minimum on the base 'urethane' bumpers...

The colors would be applied to order...

One year only on the B-body...


I show 51 '71 X's with 'painted' bumpers...

Don't have totals for the entire line...



How many '71 BS2* left with elastomerics???

Re: 1971 Charger - Was this combo possible? [Re: DAYCLONA] #1684157
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Anything is possible





Which has been proven time and time again...

And documentation isn't airtight, either...


Many things left the factory 'unofficially'...

At least in these parts...









The "factory" was toying with the idea back in the day as evident by this "factory photo"





Actually, that is a picture of the clay model...so that bumper in the picture isn't even metal.

Re: 1971 Charger - Was this combo possible? [Re: 440trk] #1684158
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i had a couple of nos bumpers once.the coating was pretty thin.

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front of the rear charger bumper.

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Re: 1971 Charger - Was this combo possible? [Re: 6bblgt] #1684160
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sorry I don't have '70 RR numbers (anyone have the Option & Accessory Report?)




FWIW.

70 RR colors-total for all 3 body styles. Sorted highest percent to lowest. FC7 comes 8th.

Code Name percent


EB5 Blue fire Met 11.9
EV2 Tor-Red 9.1
FY1 Lemon Twist 8.1
EF8 Ivy Green Met 7.8
FK5 Burnt Orange 7.6
FE5 Rallye Red 7.5
FJ5 Lime Light 7.2
FC7 In-Violet 6.7
FF4 Lime Green Met 6.7
EK2 Vitamin C 6.5
EB7 Jamica Blue Met 3.7
EW1 Alpine White 3.5
TX9 Black Velvet 2.6
FT6 Burnt Tan Met 2.5
FY4 Citron Mist Met 2.2
EB3 Ice blue Met 1.9
DY3 Yellow gold 1.6
BL1 Sandpebble Beig 1.2
FJ6 Sassy Grass 0.6
FM3 Moulin Rouge 0.3

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Re: 1971 Charger - Was this combo possible? [Re: 6bblgt] #1684161
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sorry I don't have '70 RR numbers (anyone have the Option & Accessory Report?)




Yes.

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AAR 4-speed 3.91, Tor-Red;
70 440 6 pack Roadrunner 4-speed 3.54, Plum Crazy;
68 Formula S conv 383 4-speed 3.23, Electric Blue;
69 Barracuda conv Slant 6 OD4 2.94, 71 B5 Blue;
78 Lil' Red Truck, Red;
70 Challenger S/E. 505 6 pack, Passon 5-speed, 3.55, B7 Blue
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AAR 4-speed 3.91, Tor-Red;
70 440 6 pack Roadrunner 4-speed 3.54, Plum Crazy;
68 Formula S conv 383 4-speed 3.23, Electric Blue;
69 Barracuda conv Slant 6 OD4 2.94, 71 B5 Blue;
78 Lil' Red Truck, Red;
70 Challenger S/E. 505 6 pack, Passon 5-speed, 3.55, B7 Blue
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AAR 4-speed 3.91, Tor-Red;
70 440 6 pack Roadrunner 4-speed 3.54, Plum Crazy;
68 Formula S conv 383 4-speed 3.23, Electric Blue;
69 Barracuda conv Slant 6 OD4 2.94, 71 B5 Blue;
78 Lil' Red Truck, Red;
70 Challenger S/E. 505 6 pack, Passon 5-speed, 3.55, B7 Blue
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