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Re: V. Gaines Crashes and Walks Away [Re: Monte_Smith] #1670933 09/17/14 08:49 AM 09/17/14 08:49 AM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,155 M McCandlessboy super stock
McCandlessboy super stock M Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,155	Tickets sold pretty well for the event, nobody cares who shows up, all about pre ticket sales. Remember that on Thursday night, there was over a 50% chance of rain each day by every weather forecast in the state. Friday ended up being beautiful, but it rained like hell everywhere else. With the job market how it is, few with a job are going to leave just to watch qualifying. With the chance of rain still high most of the weekend, walk up buys were non existent.

Re: V. Gaines Crashes and Walks Away [Re: McCandlessboy] #1670934 09/17/14 12:44 PM 09/17/14 12:44 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama M MRMOPAR622 top fuel
MRMOPAR622 top fuel M Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama	There are just to many Tracks that are making plenty of $$$ that will not put out any $$$ to have the track surface fixed. "To Be The Man'You Have Got To Beat The Man" "T/D and Pro-Bracket Racer"

Re: V. Gaines Crashes and Walks Away [Re: Monte_Smith] #1670935 09/17/14 12:48 PM 09/17/14 12:48 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama M MRMOPAR622 top fuel
MRMOPAR622 top fuel M Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama	Quote: There is a SIMPLE fix to the Pro-Stockers "skating" around......Put some damn WING in the car. It is just so much easier to blame the track than to put enough wing in it to NOT be on the ragged edge of crashing because it might slow you down a hundredth. If a 10,000hp fueler can stay stuck, the track AIN'T THAT BAD. Always the Pro-Stock guys complaining about track prep because they REFUSE to put wing in the cars Monte Monte,when you put that 1100 hp engine in your car even with out the NOS then you will understand after you make a few pass's! "To Be The Man'You Have Got To Beat The Man" "T/D and Pro-Bracket Racer"

Re: V. Gaines Crashes and Walks Away [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1670936 09/17/14 11:23 PM 09/17/14 11:23 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 399 SouthEast Michigan P PETE@BESTMACHINE enthusiast
PETE@BESTMACHINE enthusiast P Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 399 SouthEast Michigan	Monday morning quarterbacks are just great, funny I don't think anybody had any trouble getting down the track at the last race, they must of changed there wing angle between races. Some people think they are smarter than the crews running these cars, what a joke. NHRA made a rule change in 2010, set min weight on rear of car, a little taller wicker height and small chin spoiler. www.BestMachineRacing.com

Re: V. Gaines Crashes and Walks Away [Re: PETE@BESTMACHINE] #1670937 09/17/14 11:42 PM 09/17/14 11:42 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Monday morning quarterbacks are just great, funny I don't think anybody had any trouble getting down the track at the last race, they must of changed there wing angle between races. Some people think they are smarter than the crews running these cars, what a joke. NHRA made a rule change in 2010, set min weight on rear of car, a little taller wicker height and small chin spoiler. Well being that you chose me as your target... why did others going down the track right before him say that the track was unsave... your the pro.. do tell

Re: V. Gaines Crashes and Walks Away [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1670938 09/18/14 12:01 AM 09/18/14 12:01 AM
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PETE@BESTMACHINE enthusiast P Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 399 SouthEast Michigan	That is right the track was unsafe not there cars, you and others want to blame the cars always, never the track. They have a lot of time testing and money in those cars a do not what to wreck them for a hundredth. If you don't know why, stop telling everyone what the cause is? www.BestMachineRacing.com

Re: V. Gaines Crashes and Walks Away [Re: PETE@BESTMACHINE] #1670939 09/18/14 12:05 AM 09/18/14 12:05 AM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: That is right the track was unsafe not there cars, you and others want to blame the cars always, never the track. They have a lot of time testing and money in those cars a do not what to wreck them for a hundredth. If you don't know why, stop telling everyone what the cause is? So WHAT is your cure EDIT If you notice I said MY OPINION but then you know all this stuff Last edited by MR_P_BODY; 09/18/14 12:07 AM.

Re: V. Gaines Crashes and Walks Away [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1670940 09/18/14 01:46 AM 09/18/14 01:46 AM
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Chris'sBarracuda master C Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,667 Arizona	Here.... http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-raci...-do-to-fix-this Chris..

Re: V. Gaines Crashes and Walks Away [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1670941 09/18/14 02:10 AM 09/18/14 02:10 AM
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tubtar master Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,082 St. Paul , Mn.	Quote: Here.... http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-raci...-do-to-fix-this Chris.. Gee...........kind of sounds like the track may be the problem.

Re: V. Gaines Crashes and Walks Away [Re: tubtar] #1670942 09/18/14 02:14 AM 09/18/14 02:14 AM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: Here.... http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-raci...-do-to-fix-this Chris.. Gee...........kind of sounds like the track may be the problem. But it looks like they will THINK about what to do.. as I said earlier they MIGHT want to grind the surface VS repaving(which I doubt... but JMO)

Re: V. Gaines Crashes and Walks Away [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1670943 09/18/14 07:43 AM 09/18/14 07:43 AM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,380 MD Kevins493 top fuel
Kevins493 top fuel Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,380 MD	All that needs to be said on the subject of the water issues: If Capitol Raceway here in MD can solve the problem even with a really high water table, being located next to a river and just a couple miles from the bay, then someone with Bruton Smith's resources should have been able to do it a long time ago.

Re: V. Gaines Crashes and Walks Away [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1670944 09/18/14 10:21 AM 09/18/14 10:21 AM
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PETE@BESTMACHINE enthusiast P Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 399 SouthEast Michigan	So Mr [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean], you must have been there to give you opinion of the race surface being the expert you are with your 42,000 useless posts. www.BestMachineRacing.com

Re: V. Gaines Crashes and Walks Away [Re: PETE@BESTMACHINE] #1670945 09/18/14 10:32 AM 09/18/14 10:32 AM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: So Mr [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean], you must have been there to give you opinion of the race surface being the expert you are with your 42,000 useless posts. No I wasnt.. but if you would have watched it and LISTENED to the prior people that went down the track even you might have learned something.. as of my 42,000 useless post at least I dont show up and BRAG about the only dyno pull that made decent power.. then not show up again for ages ..... but then again your the PRO know it all... so you have to be right... sorry I even disputed you

Re: V. Gaines Crashes and Walks Away [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1670946 09/18/14 10:59 AM 09/18/14 10:59 AM
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PETE@BESTMACHINE enthusiast P Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 399 SouthEast Michigan	Yes I knew the track was a problem most likely due to weather conditions, to bad about V Gains, Glad he is ok, there is still a lot of good stuff on this site, just not your stuff. Very busy and not enough time to post a lot, we use Facebook for our builds and dyno tests, it is faster with todays phones. www.BestMachineRacing.com

Re: V. Gaines Crashes and Walks Away [Re: PETE@BESTMACHINE] #1670947 09/18/14 11:04 AM 09/18/14 11:04 AM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Yes I knew the track was a problem most likely due to weather conditions, to bad about V Gains, Glad he is ok, there is still a lot of good stuff on this site, just not your stuff. Very busy and not enough time to post a lot, we use Facebook for our builds and dyno tests, it is faster with todays phones. I sure dont know what you have against me but I could care less... because I dont care for you either.. I'm gonna drop it at that

Re: V. Gaines Crashes and Walks Away [Re: PETE@BESTMACHINE] #1670948 09/18/14 11:12 AM 09/18/14 11:12 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,279 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,279 PA.	Quote: Yes I knew the track was a problem most likely due to weather conditions, to bad about V Gains, Glad he is ok, there is still a lot of good stuff on this site, just not your stuff. Very busy and not enough time to post a lot, we use Facebook for our builds and dyno tests, it is faster with todays phones. Wrong side of the bed today Pete? 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.38@138.67 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: V. Gaines Crashes and Walks Away [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1670949 09/18/14 04:30 PM 09/18/14 04:30 PM
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Monte_Smith master M Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,890 North Alabama	Quote: Quote: There is a SIMPLE fix to the Pro-Stockers "skating" around......Put some damn WING in the car. It is just so much easier to blame the track than to put enough wing in it to NOT be on the ragged edge of crashing because it might slow you down a hundredth. If a 10,000hp fueler can stay stuck, the track AIN'T THAT BAD. Always the Pro-Stock guys complaining about track prep because they REFUSE to put wing in the cars Monte Monte,when you put that 1100 hp engine in your car even with out the NOS then you will understand after you make a few pass's! Not sure what that means.....but OK. I have been faster in the 1/4 in a door car than current pro-stocks are by a bunch. And I know how much difference "just a little" wing can make from something being literally undriveable to going right down. Prep and conditions will NOT be the same from track to track, nor event to event at same track. So thinking that you may not have to change something on the car.........well that makes no sense. Now if water was coming up, that is a totally different deal. My comments were based on the cries of "that track is junk and should be dug up"..........really? This is a multi million dollar facility. Do you really think if there was a problem with the surface that NHRA thought needed addressing, that Bruton wouldn't fix it......cmon. As far as the Pro-Stock guys talking about the surface being bad.......they do it ALL the time at various tracks when it doesn't have as much top end grip as they would like. It's nothing new. Monte

Re: V. Gaines Crashes and Walks Away [Re: Monte_Smith] #1670950 09/18/14 05:08 PM 09/18/14 05:08 PM
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pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,279 PA.	Monte did you watch the race on TV? The track was lifting up and even the top fuel guys were afraid to race on it. The concrete was lifting up "big-time" and in the interview they commented on it cutting a slick and taking the wing out. I was racing over the weekend so I didn't watch it till last night. That track NEEDS FIXED. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.38@138.67 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: V. Gaines Crashes and Walks Away [Re: pittsburghracer] #1670951 09/18/14 05:31 PM 09/18/14 05:31 PM
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E-Ticket master E Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,525 Louisville, KY	Quote: Monte did you watch the race on TV? The track was lifting up and even the top fuel guys were afraid to race on it. The concrete was lifting up "big-time" and in the interview they commented on it cutting a slick and taking the wing out. I was racing over the weekend so I didn't watch it till last night. That track NEEDS FIXED. Once again....EXACTLY! They were holding pieces of the track in their "hand" talking about how dangerous it would be for the fuel cars if they were to get a piece of the track and cut down a tire...... It was there on TV for God and everyone to hear and see....... "Fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son......" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK-Dqj4fHmM

Re: V. Gaines Crashes and Walks Away [Re: Monte_Smith] #1670952 09/19/14 01:31 PM 09/19/14 01:31 PM
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bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Quote: I have been faster in the 1/4 in a door car than current pro-stocks are by a bunch. Monte Monte, If you did go faster than a current prostock car, my guess would be a promod. So then we have no clutchless 5 speed, no rear weight rule, no wing/body rule, and no tire rule. Given the current pro mods they have wings the size of billboards, weight wherever they need it and a minumum of a 34.5 tire. So whatever car you drove cannot compare to a current prostock. I have heard the problem with the track is the concrete is cracking off in pieces from the mix being wrong. This is not the first time this has happened. but what do i know BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

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