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Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: 1KoolBee] #1669989
09/13/14 09:41 PM
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OK for some perspective.......by no means perfect, but not bad for her age.




Blend it or leave it. Please don't repaint it. I would spend more time looking at that car as it sits than a show queen



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Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: roe] #1669990
09/13/14 11:50 PM
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It's only original once.

Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: 69_SIX_PACK] #1669991
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I think a car with 80% original paint is much more interesting than just another repainted queen, as long as it doesn't look like it's neglected of course. You can always change your mind later with this option, with the other option it's over for good.

Sheldon




That's exactly how I feel.




Me too. If it can be spot repaired and retain 80% original paint and look good, then that's definitely what I'd do.....if the original paint was too far gone, then that's another story.


Dave


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Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: 1KoolBee] #1669992
09/16/14 02:01 PM
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Either repaint it or leave it entirely alone. I've gone through this process with two cars. Obviously I don't know you but, knowing myself, I'd never be happy with the 80/20 version. The chances are very slim that it will be matched to the point that it is completely undetectable and, even if people look at the car and don't comment on the new/old finish, you will know and, eventually, you will get to where you wish you would have gone ahead and painted it. At least that's what happened both times with me.

You didn't mention the level to which you were thinking of having it painted. There are more differences between a 'driver' paint job and a 'restoration' paint job than just how much it costs and I would assume there are a few shops around you that could do either.

I recently got a repaint that looks very good but didn't cost a fortune. If it gets a chip, sure it's going to bug me but it won't be the end of the world. I'm certainly not going to get upset if it gets rained on, bird-pooped on, leaned on, etc and it sure isn't going to keep me from enjoying the car.

I think this is the most important point; do whatever you wish but don't let it keep you from ENJOYING THE CAR.

Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: DPelletier] #1669993
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I think a car with 80% original paint is much more interesting than just another repainted queen, as long as it doesn't look like it's neglected of course. You can always change your mind later with this option, with the other option it's over for good.

Sheldon




That's exactly how I feel.




Me too. If it can be spot repaired and retain 80% original paint and look good, then that's definitely what I'd do.....if the original paint was too far gone, then that's another story.


Dave




Same thought here as well. I'd bet it will see more run-time with the original paint "touched up" than with a full respray.
Shouldnt be too difficult to find a paint supplier that can mix a very good match.
Plus you'll save a wad of cash!

Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: nomore65BelvJim] #1669994
09/17/14 12:09 AM
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I think a car with 80% original paint is much more interesting than just another repainted queen, as long as it doesn't look like it's neglected of course. You can always change your mind later with this option, with the other option it's over for good.

Sheldon




That's exactly how I feel.




Me too. If it can be spot repaired and retain 80% original paint and look good, then that's definitely what I'd do.....if the original paint was too far gone, then that's another story.


Dave




Same thought here as well. I'd bet it will see more run-time with the original paint "touched up" than with a full respray.
Shouldnt be too difficult to find a paint supplier that can mix a very good match.
Plus you'll save a wad of cash!




Thanks for everyone's feedback. I hear you on the wad of cash, one local shop near here quoted me $10K for bodywork and "show quality" paint. No doubt they could deliver based on their reputation, but the owner seemed to base his price on what he thought my car would be worth when it was done rather than time & materials it took to do the job. Naturally I passed. As far as being disappointed in the way it looks, I've been looking at the primer spots & dings since 1975, so if the repairs weren't perfect, I wouldn't be overly disappointed. I agree with RUNCHARGER in that if it doesn't turn out, I can still do the full repaint later.

Meanwhile a "stock appearing" 383/451 is at the machine shop so I won't have to worry about hurting the factory motor. Driving it is definitely still part of the plan!

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Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: 1KoolBee] #1669995
09/17/14 01:08 AM
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I think a car with 80% original paint is much more interesting than just another repainted queen, as long as it doesn't look like it's neglected of course. You can always change your mind later with this option, with the other option it's over for good.

Sheldon




That's exactly how I feel.




Me too. If it can be spot repaired and retain 80% original paint and look good, then that's definitely what I'd do.....if the original paint was too far gone, then that's another story.


Dave




Same thought here as well. I'd bet it will see more run-time with the original paint "touched up" than with a full respray.
Shouldnt be too difficult to find a paint supplier that can mix a very good match.
Plus you'll save a wad of cash!




Thanks for everyone's feedback. I hear you on the wad of cash, one local shop near here quoted me $10K for bodywork and "show quality" paint. No doubt they could deliver based on their reputation, but the owner seemed to base his price on what he thought my car would be worth when it was done rather than time & materials it took to do the job. Naturally I passed. As far as being disappointed in the way it looks, I've been looking at the primer spots & dings since 1975, so if the repairs weren't perfect, I wouldn't be overly disappointed. I agree with RUNCHARGER in that if it doesn't turn out, I can still do the full repaint later.

Meanwhile a "stock appearing" 383/451 is at the machine shop so I won't have to worry about hurting the factory motor. Driving it is definitely still part of the plan!




How many black primer spots does this car have? Looks like:

top rear RR quarter
bottom edge of RR quarter
front of RF fender
front of LF

More?

They are pretty large. And they are right next to worn thin paint on RF fender with dings. If you paint them I don't know how you'd blend into thin paint and the dings.

Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: autoxcuda] #1669996
09/17/14 11:43 PM
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Actually drivers side is pretty straight, dent in front fender is pretty small, but plenty of door dings. The "thin spots" you refer to are actually primer overspray, this car has never had a machine-buffer on the paint before. Lower right quarter is an AMD repair panel due to rust in trunk drop-off. Left quarter is rust free.


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Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: 1KoolBee] #1669997
09/17/14 11:51 PM
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That car looks pretty good, get a dentique guy to work out all the door dings then get the body work done and spot it all in. A friend of mine would probably buy that car off you in a millisecond, he had a white 68 Bee in the early 70's and has never forgotten that car.

Sheldon

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