Re: Super Pro at Monster Mopar Norwalk 1/8 or 1/4?
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Re: Super Pro at Monster Mopar Norwalk 1/8 or 1/4?
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One of the dumbest things I hear is when people say racing 1/8 mile gets things through quicker. I know at our 1/4 mile track, if a 10 flat car lifts at the 1/8 mile and coasts out doing 110 mph, he is going to take way longer to get off the track for the next pair than lifting at 135 mph at the 1/4 mile finish line and coasting out.
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Re: Super Pro at Monster Mopar Norwalk 1/8 or 1/4?
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The only thing about 1/8 mile racing is they have way less oil downs.. oil downs take a ton of time (and money)
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Re: Super Pro at Monster Mopar Norwalk 1/8 or 1/4?
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One of the dumbest things I hear is when people say racing 1/8 mile gets things through quicker. I know at our 1/4 mile track, if a 10 flat car lifts at the 1/8 mile and coasts out doing 110 mph, he is going to take way longer to get off the track for the next pair than lifting at 135 mph at the 1/4 mile finish line and coasting out.
Now here's where I will disagree as I have witnessed it. 1/8 mile racing will and does shorten the racing program. We used to end up racing till 4am during the Halloween Classic till they switched over to 1/8 mile racing. Now we finish up way earlier which is great at that time of year. I'm kinda open minded on this subject as I do both and at times 1/8 mile is the smart move. (high car counts, bad weather, track conditions, cold track condition)
And I guess I will disagree with this if you are referring to Norwalk. IF all things the same as far as oil downs then the 1/4 is quicker as the cars are getting to the end of the track quicker. Norwalk does not usually open the earlier turn offs so either way the cars HAVE to run to the end of the track. Please explain how a car running slower will clear the track quicker
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Re: Super Pro at Monster Mopar Norwalk 1/8 or 1/4?
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The only thing about 1/8 mile racing is they have way less oil downs.. oil downs take a ton of time (and money)
Interesting comment.
This year I have done a lot of watching at Saturday bracket races( getting pumped back up by finally having a car again) And from sitting at the starting line watching pair after pair after pair race..... Most all car issues arise either after coming out of the water box( by far the most common) or immediately after the starting line...... Hoses, tranny lines, shifters, U joints, axles, water leaks... Etc, seem to most always happen from about 20 feet downtrack, to back in the water box. Not saying stuff doesn't break from 660 to 1320, but it's insignificant compared to stuff I posted above... I would say a tenth as much failure... Now I am talking bracket cars..... Maybe I am wrong, but I have watched a ton of cars for a ton of years, I see what I see. Oil downs take a long time to fix, but most failures happen around the starting line and water box.
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Re: Super Pro at Monster Mopar Norwalk 1/8 or 1/4?
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The only thing about 1/8 mile racing is they have way less oil downs.. oil downs take a ton of time (and money)
Interesting comment.
This year I have done a lot of watching at Saturday bracket races( getting pumped back up by finally having a car again) And from sitting at the starting line watching pair after pair after pair race..... Most all car issues arise either after coming out of the water box( by far the most common) or immediately after the starting line...... Hoses, tranny lines, shifters, U joints, axles, water leaks... Etc, seem to most always happen from about 20 feet downtrack, to back in the water box. Not saying stuff doesn't break from 660 to 1320, but it's insignificant compared to stuff I posted above... I would say a tenth as much failure... Now I am talking bracket cars..... Maybe I am wrong, but I have watched a ton of cars for a ton of years, I see what I see. Oil downs take a long time to fix, but most failures happen around the starting line and water box.
Cars do tend to blow up rear ends on the starting line, thats where the stress is... but they dont string out the oil... when they blow a engine on the top end they string the oil out for a LONG WAY... much harder to clean it up and more time and money
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Re: Super Pro at Monster Mopar Norwalk 1/8 or 1/4?
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One of the dumbest things I hear is when people say racing 1/8 mile gets things through quicker. I know at our 1/4 mile track, if a 10 flat car lifts at the 1/8 mile and coasts out doing 110 mph, he is going to take way longer to get off the track for the next pair than lifting at 135 mph at the 1/4 mile finish line and coasting out.
Now here's where I will disagree as I have witnessed it. 1/8 mile racing will and does shorten the racing program. We used to end up racing till 4am during the Halloween Classic till they switched over to 1/8 mile racing. Now we finish up way earlier which is great at that time of year. I'm kinda open minded on this subject as I do both and at times 1/8 mile is the smart move. (high car counts, bad weather, track conditions, cold track condition)
And I guess I will disagree with this if you are referring to Norwalk. IF all things the same as far as oil downs then the 1/4 is quicker as the cars are getting to the end of the track quicker. Norwalk does not usually open the earlier turn offs so either way the cars HAVE to run to the end of the track. Please explain how a car running slower will clear the track quicker
That was the point I was trying to make as well. 131 doesn't have an early turnout. Running 1/8 it takes way longer to coast out and clear the track.... Plus the ET shack is well past where you would be even if there was an earlier turnout. Guess I never noticed Norwalk had an early turnout. When do they use it? For jr dragsters?
69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam, footbrake street/strip car Best so far, 10.32 1/4 1.41 best 60 foot 6.56 at 104.17
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Re: Super Pro at Monster Mopar Norwalk 1/8 or 1/4?
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guys,I guess I started this conversation of quarter vs eigth mile ,and I would much rather run quarter mile.In fact,Bowling Green is a quarter mile track 72 miles away from me,but,they run eighth mile in their reg Sunday program!?>They do however run a quarter mile trophy class,and I am getting a street car together just to run that.Plus ,I can take it to the big MOPAR meets and have sumpin to run at those ,too.I ran my 1/8 th mile car at BG once ,but I got into the limiter at 1000 ft and only ran 11.18.I think a 10.90 would be more likely if I had some more RPM or less gear.If I still had the 8 3/4 in it I could throw some 4.10's in it and see.I don't see how running quarter miole would slow a program down much,you are only on the track for 4 seconds longer!
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Re: Super Pro at Monster Mopar Norwalk 1/8 or 1/4?
[Re: Leigh]
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i have done both myself,and am a 1/4 mile fan,but years ago racing 1/8 at pacemakers was a blast on sat nights,you almost always had to dial down as it got cooler.and with no lights past the 1/8 you would disappear and hope like hell you could see where you were going.now its lit up and has concrete starting pad.sure beat national trails on a 95 degree sunday with no breeze and no shade anywhere.but its all fun....
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Re: Super Pro at Monster Mopar Norwalk 1/8 or 1/4?
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I like them both but would rather 1/8th mile race any day. BTW Norwalk runs the 10k's 1/8th mile...
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Re: Super Pro at Monster Mopar Norwalk 1/8 or 1/4?
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Norwalk was a quick 32 in 2010. Charlie still ran it that year and I'm thinking the door-side was around 5.30 to get in. Check MM website because for some reason I think Kilcare was an all run field under a certain ET.
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