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Re: whats everyone running solid roller lifters on street? [Re: ] #1665206
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When I ordered my custom Bullet Cam I stressed that I wanted gentle ramps so I wouldn't have to Dave

Re: whats everyone running solid roller lifters on street? [Re: quickd100] #1665207
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Isky Red Zone solid rollers in my hemi. Block doesn't even have lifter oil galleys.


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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
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Re: whats everyone running solid roller lifters on street? [Re: StrokerAspen] #1665208
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I am running the Comp Cams 8043, I bought them from IMM engines.




Me too. Running 276/284 @ .050" done a fair amount of street miles.

-Kenny




I bought my lifters from Brian also (for my SB)

Re: whats everyone running solid roller lifters on street? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1665209
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Big cams, or even big SPRINGS is NOT what kills lifters and other valve train parts on the street. It is ramp speed and lobe profiles............I have done cams for several "Drag Week" cars and they are routinely well over .900 on the lift and the seat pressure is usually 350+. They survive just fine.

As for lifters........can't go wrong with Morel, Isky Red Zones, Jesels or Crowers. One thing to keep in mind as well. An $800 set of lifters is WAY more than just a price jacked $300 set of lifters. As with many things.........you get what you pay for.

Monte

Re: whats everyone running solid roller lifters on street? [Re: Hot 340] #1665210
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Agressive profiles and lack of spring pressure is harder on rollers than anything. And if you run a morel style lifter you usually have to restrict oil in most setups


why do morels need restricted? I have them and have a oil pressure issue, wondering if it is the lifters causing it? have 40 lbs idle and pressure drops as rpm's go up.

Re: whats everyone running solid roller lifters on street? [Re: bones427] #1665211
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Agressive profiles and lack of spring pressure is harder on rollers than anything. And if you run a morel style lifter you usually have to restrict oil in most setups


why do morels need restricted? I have them and have a oil pressure issue, wondering if it is the lifters causing it? have 40 lbs idle and pressure drops as rpm's go up.


Morels are not a solid body lifter, if running a stock block smallblock you need to tube the lifter galley or bush the bores.

Re: whats everyone running solid roller lifters on street? [Re: bones427] #1665212
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Agressive profiles and lack of spring pressure is harder on rollers than anything. And if you run a morel style lifter you usually have to restrict oil in most setups


why do morels need restricted? I have them and have a oil pressure issue, wondering if it is the lifters causing it? have 40 lbs idle and pressure drops as rpm's go up.




Is that 40# at idle hot... if it drops with rpm thats
not the lifters... either the pump has problems or
the filter might be chocking it... first thing to
try is another filter

Re: whats everyone running solid roller lifters on street? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1665213
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I changed the pump and 3 diff filters. have a wix racing on it know. 2 dff gauges. checked all the oil galley plugs are there. I'm lost!

Re: whats everyone running solid roller lifters on street? [Re: bones427] #1665214
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I changed the pump and 3 diff filters. have a wix racing on it know. 2 dff gauges. checked all the oil galley plugs are there. I'm lost!




I dont know but I wouldnt run it like that... time
to pull the engine and find the problem.. the lifters
could be right at the edge of the oil galley and with
more rpm could be exposing the galley

Re: whats everyone running solid roller lifters on street? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1665215
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whats weird is it had 60+ lbs . then lost the pressure. I have the intake off now and the lifters band isn't coming out of the hole. it's 40 psi at idle then drops from there as rpm increases. will be zero at 4000rpm. no I haven't ran it much because of this. will be pulling it soon.

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Re: whats everyone running solid roller lifters on street? [Re: bones427] #1665216
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whats weird is it had &0 lbs cold . then lost the pressure. I have the intake off now and the lifters band isn't coming out of the hole. it's 40 psi at idle then drops from there as rpm increases. will be zero at 4000rpm. no I haven't ran it much because of this. will be pulling it soon.




With it cold the oil pressure will be higher and as
it warms up will drop due to the viscosity change..
it sorta sounds like the by pass is going open as
soon as the rpm comes up.. but you said you changed
the pump

Re: whats everyone running solid roller lifters on street? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1665217
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After the issues I and many other had with high volume pumps I will never use another one. my standard volume pump works perfect. and my high volume pump is going on the scrap pile.


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422 Indy headed small block
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Re: whats everyone running solid roller lifters on street? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1665218
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After the issues I and many other had with high volume pumps I will never use another one. my standard volume pump works perfect. and my high volume pump is going on the scrap pile.




What was your issue with the HV pump

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After the issues I and many other had with high volume pumps I will never use another one. my standard volume pump works perfect. and my high volume pump is going on the scrap pile.




What was your issue with the HV pump






Pump was going up over 130 pounds during my 1/4 mile passes. Thank God i didn't have a Fram filter on it.


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422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: whats everyone running solid roller lifters on street? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1665220
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ya John , but mine drops like we talked about, not going up in pressure.John you have the stuff to tube the block? if so I'm Gonna have to bring it to ya! MR_P_BODY it has the same issue hot or cold.

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After the issues I and many other had with high volume pumps I will never use another one. my standard volume pump works perfect. and my high volume pump is going on the scrap pile.




What was your issue with the HV pump






Pump was going up over 130 pounds during my 1/4 mile passes. Thank God i didn't have a Fram filter on it.




I have to run a HV pump on my 416.. it has enough
built in leaks that the standard pump wasnt giving
me enough pressure(not enough volume).. I have the
edm rollers and PR oiling.. the edm hole is .026
in each lifter.. the block is bushed but I went with
a .060 hole in each... just lots of leaks

Re: whats everyone running solid roller lifters on street? [Re: bones427] #1665222
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ya John , but mine drops like we talked about, not going up in pressure.John you have the stuff to tube the block? if so I'm Gonna have to bring it to ya! MR_P_BODY it has the same issue hot or cold.





LOL. Yes I do have the needed tools BUT its kinda one of the jobs I don't really volunteer to do. Pretty sure Mancini sells the needed kit.


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422 Indy headed small block
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ya John , but mine drops like we talked about, not going up in pressure.John you have the stuff to tube the block? if so I'm Gonna have to bring it to ya! MR_P_BODY it has the same issue hot or cold.






http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/racoilrespac.html


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Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: whats everyone running solid roller lifters on street? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1665224
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Don't you have to get a reamer for tubing? its not in that kit.

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Don't you have to get a reamer for tubing? its not in that kit.





I would give them a call. I made up my own kit using 1/2 inch copper house pipe (10 inches long), an old rounded off solid lifter to peen the tube, and had a long drill bit made-up. Probably get a long drill bit now on ebay or Ace Hardware but I made mine 38 years ago. DON"T FORGET TO REDRILL OIL FEED HOLES.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




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