Re: Alterkation drag only setup
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I have two Magnum Force units on two cars, what do you want to know? One is street/strip, the other race only for now...
On the street/strip car, does the rack turn as much as the stock box?? What made you go with MF ??
Yes it turns as far, but note the wheel stance is a tad wider and lower and I run skinnies up front so if you run stock wheels and tire it might be different.
I went with them because they were the only company at the time making such a kit back in 99...Now a days, there are more to choose from. The second car I did just this past winter. I am happy with it, but their customer service can suck. It was almost 4 weeks late....It really almost cancelled my race season.
The Altercation will be easier to install. I really didn't need the extra shock tower, so I went with MF....Some people claim the coil overs are too much strain on the uni body stock shock towers. I can say, its been on my car over 10 years with no issues.
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Re: Alterkation drag only setup
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08/12/14 09:17 AM
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I have one on my Challenger, the biggest draw back is lack of shock selection and frontend travel. It could really use about three more inches of travel to be a great drag racing front suspension.
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Re: Alterkation drag only setup
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This kit also uses your factory spindle so you can use your existing brakes.
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Re: Alterkation drag only setup
[Re: bigtimeauto]
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school me on the "longer shock" deal please.... is it due to dealing with the "rise" of a leaf spring car? no clue here. There was a pretty long post last year on tube K's and lots of picts. Probably the first one that didn't turn into a "he copied" bash fest. I had three sets of springs on the front playing around before the car ever hit the track.
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Re: Alterkation drag only setup
[Re: Monte_Smith]
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How much travel the front needs has absolutely ZERO to do with anything about the rear suspension, what type, or what size tire you have. It has to do with car setup, weight percentage, power and how much (if any) pitch rotation your car needs to hook.
I have seen leaf spring cars need 4" and I have seen leaf spring cars need 1".......same with ladder bars and 4-links.
Every time there is a Calvert post, it is immediately said that "Calvert says" you need 5"............maybe on a low hp something that needs a LOT of pitch rotation, but usually not on anything with power and a decent tire.
And if you car won't hook with ladder bars, big tires and 3" or so of front travel..........the front is NOT the problem
Monte
I never said the frontend was a problem. I have had this frontend since 2007 and have put nearly 2000 passes on and it has held up great. The original OP wanted opinions so I gave mine. With my kind of racing I need repeatability not just fast times so when a car varies in the 60' it makes things a lot harder on me to do my job. I have tried many things over the years to solve my issues including different front springs, custom valved front shocks, different driveshaft angles, ladder bar angles, rear shock settings, rear ride height, front ride height, moved weight around, and tire sizes. Nothing has really helped and when the tracks get hot around here which is from May-September I would really like more frontend travel.
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Re: Alterkation drag only setup
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Does anybody know how much travel the Alterkation has? How much a stock front end has? how much the other aftermarket front ends have? How far can you extend the front before the ball joint angle becomes severe and tries to break? I mean if were going to say one is lacking lets see what it has in relation to the others. I mean with all of this travel I would love to see the bump steer measurements on these long travel front ends I have never found a reason to measure any front end travel but maybe I will start making notes....
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