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Re: Alterkation drag only setup [Re: bigtimeauto] #1657890 08/13/14 02:23 PM 08/13/14 02:23 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	Quote: Quote: My Alterkation has 3.5" of travel, Bob's has 6" with more available by trimming the upper control arm stops. Again I'm not bad mouthing either or saying one is better. I have photos of both cars with the frontend in the air and I aligned both cars. Neither have any kind of bump steer issues. my alerkation has 5" from my ride height Where`d you get that ft. lower air dam? 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Alterkation drag only setup [Re: Thumperdart] #1657891 08/13/14 03:18 PM 08/13/14 03:18 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA bigtimeauto Trophy Winner
bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Quote: Quote: Quote: My Alterkation has 3.5" of travel, Bob's has 6" with more available by trimming the upper control arm stops. Again I'm not bad mouthing either or saying one is better. I have photos of both cars with the frontend in the air and I aligned both cars. Neither have any kind of bump steer issues. my alerkation has 5" from my ride height Where`d you get that ft. lower air dam? he he want to buy one? BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: Alterkation drag only setup [Re: bigtimeauto] #1657892 08/13/14 03:38 PM 08/13/14 03:38 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: My Alterkation has 3.5" of travel, Bob's has 6" with more available by trimming the upper control arm stops. Again I'm not bad mouthing either or saying one is better. I have photos of both cars with the frontend in the air and I aligned both cars. Neither have any kind of bump steer issues. my alerkation has 5" from my ride height Where`d you get that ft. lower air dam? he he want to buy one? Just may.............. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Alterkation drag only setup [Re: Thumperdart] #1657893 08/13/14 04:09 PM 08/13/14 04:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 104,346 Garden Grove, CA OzHemi Penguin-hating Ginger
OzHemi Penguin-hating Ginger Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 104,346 Garden Grove, CA	The first gen Camaro spoilers are common to use...you can search here for camaro spoiler and get some ideas.

Re: Alterkation drag only setup [Re: OzHemi] #1657894 08/13/14 04:19 PM 08/13/14 04:19 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	Was thinking his was a Camaro deal by the looks of it but not sure and I can get those up the street at Unlimited. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Alterkation drag only setup [Re: Thumperdart] #1657895 08/13/14 04:35 PM 08/13/14 04:35 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA bigtimeauto Trophy Winner
bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Quote: Was thinking his was a Camaro deal by the looks of it but not sure and I can get those up the street at Unlimited. dam I can't make a dollar on these mopar sites! BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: Alterkation drag only setup [Re: Thumperdart] #1657896 08/13/14 04:37 PM 08/13/14 04:37 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	I got mine from summit for 49 dollars. Just a Camaro spoiler. Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: Alterkation drag only setup [Re: Thumperdart] #1657897 08/13/14 04:53 PM 08/13/14 04:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 104,346 Garden Grove, CA OzHemi Penguin-hating Ginger
OzHemi Penguin-hating Ginger Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 104,346 Garden Grove, CA	Quote: Was thinking his was a Camaro deal by the looks of it but not sure and I can get those up the street at Unlimited. They are a somewhat flexible plastic.... Classic Industries near here in Huntington has them by the zillions too.

Re: Alterkation drag only setup [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1657898 08/13/14 05:22 PM 08/13/14 05:22 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Quote: Quote: ...and I agree. The rack does not turn as sharp as the stock steering. I'll worry about that when i have to parallel park in the staging lanes. Can you shorten the steering arm 1".. that would help the degrees of turn.. thats what I did on my struts How would this affect high speed stability? Make it more sensitive to steering input? Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: Alterkation drag only setup [Re: bigtimeauto] #1657899 08/13/14 05:25 PM 08/13/14 05:25 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	Quote: Quote: Was thinking his was a Camaro deal by the looks of it but not sure and I can get those up the street at Unlimited. dam I can't make a dollar on these mopar sites! Not steppin on your game Bigtime.............. Just thaught it looked good on your car and I can drive 10 minutes and grab one from my friend at Unlimited. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Alterkation drag only setup [Re: 1967dartgt] #1657900 08/13/14 05:51 PM 08/13/14 05:51 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: Quote: ...and I agree. The rack does not turn as sharp as the stock steering. I'll worry about that when i have to parallel park in the staging lanes. Can you shorten the steering arm 1".. that would help the degrees of turn.. thats what I did on my struts How would this affect high speed stability? Make it more sensitive to steering input? Yes it does.. but I dont know of a rack that has more than 3.5 turns.. most are 3.2... so if you want a better turning radius you shorten the steering arm or leave it for less input... I'm shortening mine this winter 1" for a better radius.. mine is larger than I want but yet its still has too much input on the steering wheel.. it will make my set up better.. on the race car I lengthened the arms 1" to slow the input.. on the track people tend to over steer and get out of control due to it

Re: Alterkation drag only setup [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1657901 08/13/14 09:30 PM 08/13/14 09:30 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: ...and I agree. The rack does not turn as sharp as the stock steering. I'll worry about that when i have to parallel park in the staging lanes. Can you shorten the steering arm 1".. that would help the degrees of turn.. thats what I did on my struts How would this affect high speed stability? Make it more sensitive to steering input? Yes it does.. but I dont know of a rack that has more than 3.5 turns.. most are 3.2... so if you want a better turning radius you shorten the steering arm or leave it for less input... I'm shortening mine this winter 1" for a better radius.. mine is larger than I want but yet its still has too much input on the steering wheel.. it will make my set up better.. on the race car I lengthened the arms 1" to slow the input.. on the track people tend to over steer and get out of control due to it After driving my car for 15 yrs, switching to the rack now I have trouble getting used to it on the street. Don't think I need to speed it up. Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: Alterkation drag only setup [Re: Al_Alguire] #1657902 08/13/14 10:41 PM 08/13/14 10:41 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,732 Bitopia J jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds.. J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,732 Bitopia	Quote: I am pretty sure Magnumforce was first by a few years. According one of the protagonists here, you are correct by who had a suspension offering first, the amount of time might still be up in the air Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.

Re: Alterkation drag only setup [Re: jcc] #1657903 08/13/14 10:46 PM 08/13/14 10:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,384 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,384 Las Vegas	Yeah I am unsure how long they have been doing it myself. I know they had them in 97 for sure. Way before the AlerterK stuff was out for the general public. I personally like the AlterK stuff but just wish he made a lighter version. "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: Alterkation drag only setup [Re: megajoltman] #1657904 08/13/14 10:57 PM 08/13/14 10:57 PM
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72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Quote: What about Bob. This^^^ Bobs Pro Fab for the win, for a strip car. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: Alterkation drag only setup [Re: 72Swinger] #1657905 08/14/14 01:03 AM 08/14/14 01:03 AM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,414 Stow ,Ohio D demon440 pro stock
demon440 pro stock D Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,414 Stow ,Ohio	I have an AlterKtion front end on my Demon. I think I paid like $3800. for it. But that was a few years ago. To the original poster, you are welcome to come check it out if you would like. I live near Cleveland. 8239749-024.JPG (46 downloads)

Re: Alterkation drag only setup [Re: demon440] #1657906 08/14/14 01:17 AM 08/14/14 01:17 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 866 Winnipeg ,Mb. CA. chryco super stock
chryco super stock Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 866 Winnipeg ,Mb. CA.	Mag Force in mine , was the first out there (bought mine in 02' around $3600. I`ve had both sitting side by side on my garage floor. Found the Mag Force lighter. Both were well made , customer service on the Mag Force was good too. Gas is fer washin' parts ....Alky`s fer drinkin' ...Nitro`s fer Racin'!

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