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Re: Fixed Fans [Re: TooMany62s] #1655458
08/09/14 12:52 PM
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TooMany62, excellent post. I dug in and have some examples I found in the research. First the "standard" most of us have tried or used:

Hayden 2765
Overall Height 2.67"
Standard Clutch - 60-70% Fan turn when engaged.
Use with 1 1/2" pitch fans

Here are some heavier duty alternates that are 5/8" to 15/16" longer:

Hayden 2747
Overall Height 3.34"
Heavy Duty Clutch - 70-90% Fan turn when engaged
Use with 2 1/2" pitch fans

Hayden 2797
Overall Height 3.65"
Severe Duty Clutch - 80-90% Fan turn when engaged
Use with 2 1/2" pitch fans

On my E-Body, I could easily fit either one into my application but the 2747 would be a cleaner fit. This would give me 10-20% more volume at idle plus it would put my fan deeper in the shroud where it needs to be. I could possibly fit the 2797 which would give me 20% more volume but I may be a tad too deep.

If the solid fan works for me, I am going to measure again to see how the severe duty would fit. All three clutches are available locally so it would be a great test.

Re: Fixed Fans [Re: PossessedDuster] #1655459
08/09/14 03:14 PM
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Just installed a fixed fan in my 440 Cuda and it has reduced my idle temperatures. My radiator now cools the water by 11-17 degrees at idle instead of 5-10 I was getting with the clutch fan. More importantly is the fact that my car now equalizes at a reasonable temperature at extended idle and I don't think it will creep up out of control.

I notice no sound difference whatsoever when driving but I have the windows open and car is pretty loud anyway.

Re: Fixed Fans - UPDATE [Re: Steve Bryant] #1655460
08/18/14 11:53 AM
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Tried the Hayden Severe fan clutch to get that 80-90% shaft speed but it just won't fit right so I got the Heavy-Duty (Hayden # 2747 ) to get the 70-90% shaft speed. This will be a good improvement over the standard #2765 which operates at 60-70% shaft speed when engaged.

As you can see, the Heavy-Duty model is a little over 3/16 taller than the standard but for my '70 E-Body with a 440, that will be close enough.

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Re: Fixed Fans [Re: PossessedDuster] #1655461
08/18/14 12:02 PM
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Quote:

The jaguar based fan clutch just isn't cutting it in stop and go traffic on the Belvedere with the 440.

Cools fine at speed and the rest of the system is all new/rebuilt so no issues there.

Short of trying the repro one Tony's parts has who here runs a fixed fan? Opinions?




6 or 7 blade steel fan

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