Re: 426 Hemi smoking issue
[Re: hemi67]
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08/02/14 02:49 AM
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Check to make sure your PCV is working correctly. If your intake below the carbs is shiny with oil, that'd be the place to start.
My only other thoughts would be to ask what style valve seals do you have? The umbrella style or the positive seal type?
Reason I ask is that I have a similar problem with my AMC V8. After a hard romp, most of the oil is pumped into the heads (AMC's are notorious for poor drainback issues). My top end is old and worn and with half-assed umbrella style valve seals and a rocker area full of oil, lots of oil gets past the seals and into the combustion chamber.
My symptoms were also similar. Good Compression, acceptable leakdown, functional PCV and dry upper intake.
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Re: 426 Hemi smoking issue
[Re: hemi67]
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08/02/14 06:39 AM
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Yes they are still on the plugs.
On a HEMI you remove the compression washers, as the HEMI well tube is the "washer", chances are you've destroyed the base of the well tube leaving the washer on the plug, so oil is being drawn into the cylinder(s)...don't attempt to "repair"the tubes distorted base, just replace them, all 8, and remove the washer rings from any plugs in the future...common mistake, we've all done it at one time or another
Mike
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Re: 426 Hemi smoking issue
[Re: DAYCLONA]
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08/02/14 10:09 AM
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Can you recommend a good source for new tubes?
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Re: 426 Hemi smoking issue
[Re: DaveRS23]
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08/02/14 10:12 AM
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Can you recommend a good source for new tubes?
What year HEMI/cylinder head...and covers used, as there's more than one style of tube(s)
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Re: 426 Hemi smoking issue
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08/02/14 02:50 PM
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Eddy/MP heads with original 70/71 valve covers. Seems everything Hemi is screwed up right now.
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Re: 426 Hemi smoking issue
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08/03/14 11:14 AM
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Try this, use a 12" extension with a spark plug socket installed, clamp in a bench vise vertically with the socket at the top. Put a spark plug, (WITHOUT the washer) in the socket, slide the tube down over this and lightly tap around it to reshape the tube.
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Re: 426 Hemi smoking issue
[Re: dynorad]
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08/04/14 01:30 AM
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When doing a leakdown check, listen in the intake, exhaust and in the oil fill tube. The hiss will tell you what system is leaking as long as the plug adapter is sealed. I have engines that run a .035 gap on a 5" bore and don't have much loss.....you set the air to 80 PSI and see what it holds at, you can have as much as a 25% loss and still make full power, while some engines lose power with only a 5% loss. I work on airplanes and every year we do a leakdown check so I have lots of experience with this. Tim
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Re: 426 Hemi smoking issue
[Re: hemi67]
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08/04/14 02:15 PM
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If intake and head ports are slathered with oil coating, almost has to be intake/head geometry seal. Recently went thru almost the same on our six pack 512. New set of Eddy aluminum heads all is well. My issue was severe plug fouling,,a bit different from your problem,,but same idea,,,too much oil in combustion chamber.
Machine shop that set up new heads with bee hive springs, etc. I had check for me the valve guides. They said they and seals were fine.
No more plug fouling. Intake ports are dry,,,had to pull intake again as one of my recently installed Scorpion hydraulic roller lifters decided to take a dump. .25 valve gap on exhaust number 6.
Does it ever end!
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