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Re: recent launch pic 4 me [Re: Clanton] #1652996
07/31/14 12:01 AM
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WOW........ .....I love to see a big car use a SS spring suspension but man its been a long time since I've seen one use up just about every bit of the springs ability on the launch.......


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Re: recent launch pic 4 me [Re: Clanton] #1652997
07/31/14 03:27 AM
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I always cringe when I see slapper bars on a Mopar. Get Cal-tracs and split mono-leafs from Calvert and some decent shocks.

Re: recent launch pic 4 me [Re: 451Cuda] #1652998
07/31/14 08:54 AM
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I see the Mono leafs only come in 200 or 225# spring rates.


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Re: recent launch pic 4 me [Re: Clanton] #1652999
07/31/14 10:35 AM
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If you do go w/ Cal-Tracs get -1". I used the -1"s and it still sits a tad higher than my old XHD springs. Hoping to see how much 60ft I pick up this weekend.

Re: recent launch pic 4 me [Re: Clanton] #1653000
07/31/14 10:44 AM
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what does a launch like that do to your pinion angle? Seems like a lot of lift...



BINGO!!!The slapper bars are flat at rest and in the pic it looks like they are at 25+* up. I am sure that is killing my 60' also.




With a 25+ degrees of U-joint angle I'm really surprised
you havent ripped the drive shaft apart.. that 25*
is more than the U-joint should ever see and specially
at a higher RPM

Re: recent launch pic 4 me [Re: Clanton] #1653001
07/31/14 11:34 AM
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I agree with pretty much what has been recommended so far. Car has too much lift at the rear. I'll give you an example to maybe work from. My car has a Dana, 002/003 SS springs, NO SLAPPER bars, NO PINION SNUBBER, Rancho 9000 shocks. A few years back I was having pretty much the same issues you are having. It was recommended to me to put the Rancho shocks on and tighten them up. I did this and usually run from the 7 to 9 setting depending on track conditions. The majority of the time I run them on 9. This slows the rear spring lift, and allows weight transfer to the rear of the car where it is needed. A pinion snubber is useless, unless you want to add weight to the back. Look at your pic. Do you seriously think that the snubber would be anywhere near the floorboard with that much lift????
If after launch, the tires grab and then they break loose, the shocks are allowing the back end to lift too quickly, and actually pulling the rear tires up off of the ground. I didn't believe this possible until I had video of my car doing it.


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Re: recent launch pic 4 me [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1653002
07/31/14 12:11 PM
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what does a launch like that do to your pinion angle? Seems like a lot of lift...



BINGO!!!The slapper bars are flat at rest and in the pic it looks like they are at 25+* up. I am sure that is killing my 60' also.




With a 25+ degrees of U-joint angle I'm really surprised
you havent ripped the drive shaft apart.. that 25*
is more than the U-joint should ever see and specially
at a higher RPM





I'm wondering where the trans yoke is during this. With that much lift/separation/pinion angle it has to be dam near out of the trans


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Re: recent launch pic 4 me [Re: Clanton] #1653003
07/31/14 12:28 PM
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Now that's a true leaf spring car !!!!!!!!!
Good Job


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Re: recent launch pic 4 me [Re: racerhog] #1653004
07/31/14 01:48 PM
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You better get that thing figured out Clanton.... your call out is coming to show you what a SMALL BLOCK can do with boost.

Re: recent launch pic 4 me [Re: dizuster] #1653005
07/31/14 02:19 PM
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You better get that thing figured out Clanton.... your call out is coming to show you what a SMALL BLOCK can do with boost.


I LIKE THAT


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Re: recent launch pic 4 me [Re: JAKE68] #1653006
07/31/14 03:29 PM
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Id lose the Slapper bars too, they apply to much leverage in high power combos. I would also add some clamps to the back of the springs.

I tried the SSM bars on my dart, big mistake. Way over torqued my rear suspension. Sold them to Gary/Unlawful for $50 bucs. I told him they probably wouldnt work for him, but he insisted. Pd $180 plus for them myself.

Gary, still miss you! Cant believe its been 10 years.

Re: recent launch pic 4 me [Re: dizuster] #1653007
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You better get that thing figured out Clanton.... your call out is coming to show you what a SMALL BLOCK can do with boost.





Scott ---- you already had him covered last year with your thrown together old stuff


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Re: recent launch pic 4 me [Re: dizuster] #1653008
07/31/14 06:34 PM
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You better get that thing figured out Clanton.... your call out is coming to show you what a SMALL BLOCK can do with boost.




That's a lot of figuring right there - you may need to give him a couple of years!

Re: recent launch pic 4 me [Re: DoubleD] #1653009
07/31/14 06:50 PM
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OUCH you guys hurt my feelings,NOT,LOL
I enjoyed your comments,REALLY!
Ya the windup is really something but it is gone after the 60' and I was concerned about it pulling out the yoke or extra ware on the splines.
Listen you guys I have been doing the best I can and to progress every chance I get out.I will have you know and sit down to read this I ordered some caltracs. FINALY and I have been wanting to for a long time but like I said when I can I will buy progressing the best way I know how and as MY choice.
Now if I can get ready for the mopar meet at Norwalk in September.


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Re: recent launch pic 4 me [Re: Clanton] #1653010
07/31/14 07:49 PM
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Hey, I think your doing a fine job.

Re: recent launch pic 4 me [Re: Sport440] #1653011
07/31/14 09:08 PM
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To be honest I am SOOOO glad I made the move.


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Re: recent launch pic 4 me [Re: Clanton] #1653012
07/31/14 10:28 PM
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You will be happy with their springs & bars. Gives that adjustability you never had before. I also think you will find the Rancho shock will not give you the control you'll need with that torque monster!


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Re: recent launch pic 4 me [Re: hemi-itis] #1653013
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You will be happy with their springs & bars. Gives that adjustability you never had before. I also think you will find the Rancho shock will not give you the control you'll need with that torque monster!



We can argue the shocks another time and I got the caltrac bars not the springs.They said it will be no different.


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Re: recent launch pic 4 me [Re: Clanton] #1653014
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To be MORE clear I can NOT lower the rear due to tire clearence and I will not change tire at this time and other things it may take.


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Re: recent launch pic 4 me [Re: Clanton] #1653015
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The Caltrac bars should work fine for you. You will still need to do some suspension tuning, but it will be easier.

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