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Re: baddest small block combo ever [Re: Neil] #164709
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This car goes 8.70's at over 150 with a smallblock and no power adder. My brother talked to him once and said it was loosely based on a nascar truck engine with 2 fours on a sheetmetal intake??? Maybe someone else who has seen it knows more? I like this car since it carries the mopar flag well. Tons of character and stupid fast.




What does it weigh?
Has to be 2500lbs or less!!

Re: baddest small block combo ever [Re: Plumb Wired] #164710
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Ouch that hurt, I guess my junk that ran 8.50's on N2O @ 3350# and in the 4's (1/8 mi.) boosted was just that, JUNK.

Mike Gray




Mike
Your car is far from junk. You race your car on the track, not the dyno or computer keyboard. Just remember, that is the difference here, most of these guys build motors on the desktop dyno, and state what they "SHOULD" run in a perfect world, and have no idea what to put around a good combo to make it go down the track.
Mike, your car is bada$$ without a doubt.

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Oh, and one more thing.
Mike and Leon have tested more small blocks in their cars over the years than you can shake a stick at. So if anyone would know, it would be one of them. Granted, they are class racing, but it was mentioned a 3000lb car. Anyone can throw a couple of hp at a 1500 dragster and go fast, but pushing a aerodynamically challenged musclecar through the air is a totally different ball game.

carry on

Re: baddest small block combo ever [Re: Moparnut426] #164712
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Are you asking about the 331" engines that he used to use?

If you are, I can give you the benefit of an engine that I almost bought about 20 years ago.

It was a 9.30" deck, X block, 4 bolt mains, with a billet lifter bore fixture to yield about 48 degree bore angle. It used a billet Moldex 3.20" crank with a standard 4.040" bore to get the 331". The cam was Isky roller---about .700" lift with Norris rockers. Venolia dome pistons, Venolia aluminum rods---don't remember the rings.

The heads were Diamond aluminum W2s, standard type chamber, 2.12" intake X 1.60" exhaust, fully ported.

The intake was an Edelbrock 2 X 4 tunnel ram intake, with modified plenium, fully ported.

There were a couple of these engine for sale years ago in Chattanooga, TN---don't remember how they ended there. And I am sure he used different versions---there was a lot of R & D going on back then.

Re: baddest small block combo ever [Re: 40ford] #164713
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i have seen at least one engine like that, both runing and at the shop, i think i have some pics. of that wird lifter change and those damionds heads....10000rpm at that time? hard to belive until you see/ hear them scream

Re: baddest small block combo ever [Re: b1n02cuda] #164714
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This car goes 8.70's at over 150 with a smallblock and no power adder. My brother talked to him once and said it was loosely based on a nascar truck engine with 2 fours on a sheetmetal intake??? Maybe someone else who has seen it knows more? I like this car since it carries the mopar flag well. Tons of character and stupid fast.




What does it weigh?
Has to be 2500lbs or less!!




I have no idea. I know the hood is fiberglass, but not sure about the rest of it. It's not a lightweight tube frame car with a challenger body over it. The engine must turn 9k at least. Sounds awesome going through the gears.

Re: baddest small block combo ever [Re: Plumb Wired] #164715
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Craftsman Truck or some other roundy roundy racing doesn't do a W8 justice.
Just my anyway
AL....




Ouch that hurt, I guess my junk that ran 8.50's on N2O @ 3350# and in the 4's (1/8 mi.) boosted was just that, JUNK.

Mike Gray




The circle track W8 heads are one of the baddest wedge heads ever done for any small block. They really favor power adders as they sacrifice intake valve for the larger exhaust valve. They also have thicker ports so they can possibly give more trouble free service. But, when you want the best flowing head. There is no argueing over the fact the drag race stuff originally done by CFE outflows the circle track stuff by a mile. Along with any other brand small block wedge heads.

I personally would like to see two W8 engines built alike other than the heads. One with the best circle track W8 and the other with the best drag race W8. NA there is no doubt the drag race head is capable of more HP. Get the bottle or boost in the picture and I just don't know. Depending on how much extra you are trying to make the the circle track head might surprise you. I do know that if you run nitrous on a CFE W8 you can use unbeleivable cam specs to make more power. I know my lobe centers and exhaust lobes would shock most people on here into disbeleif.

Leon


Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.
Re: baddest small block combo ever [Re: SB449VALIANT] #164716
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i have seen at least one engine like that, both runing and at the shop, i think i have some pics. of that wird lifter change and those damionds heads....10000rpm at that time? hard to belive until you see/ hear them scream





PIX please!!!!!!!!!

Re: baddest small block combo ever [Re: Moparnut426] #164717
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Anyone know exactly what was the combo that Bob Glidden ran?? Just wondering, They shouldnt be that spendy now. Sure they were state of the are back in the day.

Kasey


I'm not sure what Block he ran,but I saw an article once back in '79 about the heads. They were w2s but everything was changed & welded on like some kind of frankenstein head. The block also had the lifter angles changed & cam relocated. It was probably the first 48 deg setup. Randy

Re: baddest small block combo ever [Re: Moparnut426] #164718
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Re: baddest small block combo ever [Re: SB449VALIANT] #164721
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Re: baddest small block combo ever [Re: SB449VALIANT] #164722
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Re: baddest small block combo ever [Re: SB449VALIANT] #164723
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AWSOME,


Ill bet those are worth some cash!!

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now if you don't mine 358ci=980plus HP

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Re: baddest small block combo ever [Re: HEMIDARTS] #164726
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Re: baddest small block combo ever [Re: HEMIDARTS] #164727
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Re: baddest small block combo ever [Re: SB449VALIANT] #164728
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first one is a Maskin, second it's from Paterson these engines where built way before pro stock truck ever exist...the one with black v. covers is a more friendly lol ...820HP

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