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Re: Keith Black block - Ordered 1/17, shipped 7/16
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07/17/14 01:32 AM
07/17/14 01:32 AM
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Saskatchewan, Canada
cudabin
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My KB block was delivered a bit quicker than Jim's, but a bit longer than promised... However, It is a far superior product to the Indy block in every way you can think of, and Ken Black is a great guy that stands behind his work and cares about his customers. I would buy from KB again, and I hope that things improve on the delivery times. It would be a shame to lose such a great product for us Mopar guys. my two cents...  Arnie
67 Cuda 8.48@ 158.7 mph 1.18 60' 2,600 DA(so far...)
70 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 4-speed. 13.2 @ 104 Stock exhaust/Street tires.
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Re: Keith Black block - Ordered 1/17, shipped 7/16
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#1647276
07/17/14 01:32 AM
07/17/14 01:32 AM
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Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY
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You sure do try and twist things....I don't take enjoyment over anyones bad luck.....it sounds like you have built up frustrations that you are taking out on KB when you have NO gripe with them....... That would be like me ranting about your engine blowing up and bad mouthing your engine builder..... And you don't see the irony that you state they will get a great block, it'll just take 6 months to get.....when you waited even longer, and spent way more money, for something you didn't like so much....  
You sure havent read any of the post pertaining to
the KB blocks.. its the TIME frame... if your told
3 months then it should be... we can deal with a minor
extension but DOUBLE the time frame... all he needs
to say is its gonna be 6 months
Last edited by MR_P_BODY; 07/17/14 01:34 AM.
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Re: Keith Black block - Ordered 1/17, shipped 7/16
[Re: camastomcat]
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07/17/14 01:35 AM
07/17/14 01:35 AM
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Downtown Roebuck Ont
Twostick
Still wishing...
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By the way and for the record, my KB was the nicest block I have owned.
That seems to be the general consensus.
I would hazard to guess that for every sale he gains by over promising he loses 10 more from stories of under delivering.
Kevin
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Re: Keith Black block - Ordered 1/17, shipped 7/16
[Re: Twostick]
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07/17/14 04:20 AM
07/17/14 04:20 AM
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Las Vegas
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I think someone may have missed the entire point which has since been bought out. If it is going to take 6 months then just say 6 months. Not really rocket science here. As for me and my deals. Well I have made ALOT of changes in the last few months to my racing program. Probably why I have been spending to much time here typing. I will put some info up on the new build when the time comes. Suffice it to say we have a Predator deal in the works right now. Hoping to have it on the dyno by end of September barring any more parts issues. But since I decided to take this year off after chasing it hard the last few years I am in no appreciable rush. HOWEVER when I decided to do this a few months back I did not want to miss ANOTHER year waiting on a block. So I had one here already from another manufacturer and bought another for a second motor when time and money allows. Oh yeah paying for two kids in college currently and three total. So I can definitely feel your pain there 
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Re: Keith Black block - Ordered 1/17, shipped 7/16
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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07/17/14 05:27 AM
07/17/14 05:27 AM
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I haven't missed any point.....I highly doubt that Ken Black knew from the get go it would be 6 months....things happen....Toms engine wasn't done in a few months and it sounds like yours is taking a while...things happen....So going forward Ken should not be so optimistic with his delivery dates.
I do emphathize with 440Jim and feel he is the only one here with a real legitimate gripe.....as based upon his track record, if he would have gotten that block in April, he would have had that engine together, in the car, and sorted out by May....running impressive times and winning rounds I have no doubt. And considering he discussed the past delivery issues with Ken and was assured it would be ok, HE has reason to be fuming. Yet he has really taken the high road in all this.
Check out the posts, 1320dart still is trying to decide what stroke and parts he is going to use....so I highly doubt he would have had his engine together by now.....
Nobody else in these posts was buying a block from KB....just wanna jump on the bandwagon and bash a longtime, quality, Mom and Pop type Company....I am sure Ken Black feels as bad as anyone about the delays.
I look forward to seeing your next ride......at times you have hinted you bought a ford.....then I noticed pics of a new chassis....and lately something about an existing car you bought....a little mystery adds to the anticipation.
btw, I know 90% of racers don't post on moparts, but is there any HP blocks out there running fast ? The ones bought by moparts posters all seem to be collecting dust. Just wondering if they are a proven quality piece. Just like the Ritter blocks and the airwolf heads, ya never hear about them running in a car.
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Re: Keith Black block - Ordered 1/17, shipped 7/16
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07/17/14 08:33 AM
07/17/14 08:33 AM
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Idaho
1320Dart
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I haven't missed any point.....I highly doubt that Ken Black knew from the get go it would be 6 months....things happen....Toms engine wasn't done in a few months and it sounds like yours is taking a while...things happen....So going forward Ken should not be so optimistic with his delivery dates.
I do emphathize with 440Jim and feel he is the only one here with a real legitimate gripe.....as based upon his track record, if he would have gotten that block in April, he would have had that engine together, in the car, and sorted out by May....running impressive times and winning rounds I have no doubt. And considering he discussed the past delivery issues with Ken and was assured it would be ok, HE has reason to be fuming. Yet he has really taken the high road in all this.
Check out the posts, 1320dart still is trying to decide what stroke and parts he is going to use....so I highly doubt he would have had his engine together by now.....
Nobody else in these posts was buying a block from KB....just wanna jump on the bandwagon and bash a longtime, quality, Mom and Pop type Company....I am sure Ken Black feels as bad as anyone about the delays.
I look forward to seeing your next ride......at times you have hinted you bought a ford.....then I noticed pics of a new chassis....and lately something about an existing car you bought....a little mystery adds to the anticipation.
btw, I know 90% of racers don't post on moparts, but is there any HP blocks out there running fast ? The ones bought by moparts posters all seem to be collecting dust. Just wondering if they are a proven quality piece. Just like the Ritter blocks and the airwolf heads, ya never hear about them running in a car.
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If you must know, I have 2 different cranks. 4.5 and 4.375, and so on, - and since the block I ordered is over two times the quoted time over due, I feel I'm entitled to second guess my build and discus or PM it with other racers.
I have never bashed Ken in any way. He is a very nice man. I have complained about his delivery quotes and communication.
You don't know me. You've never walked a mile in my shoes.
Unless you've ordered parts from a well renowned company, and they didn't hold up to their time frame on their signed quote form.
Then you lost sponsors (and the money that is with them) because you couldn't make the promised dates.---- If not, then you have no right to criticize the way I'm going about my project or anything about me. You really need to get the whole story dude. Sorry for being a bit harsh.
And yes BTW, I would have had the engine done and racing by now if I would have had the block in the 12 week delivery date.
Thanks for the critique. Have your self a great day
Greg ----------------------------------------------------------------- Cost is irrelevant, making memories is far more valuable! 
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Re: Keith Black block - Ordered 1/17, shipped 7/16
[Re: Twostick]
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07/17/14 04:58 PM
07/17/14 04:58 PM
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Tulsa, Ok
WadeMetzinger
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How does that HP block compare? Off topic I know but they said they actually have INVENTORY. Way above my paygrade but the guy at the show said he could ship me one Monday if I wanted it. $5700ish IIRC.
Kevin
FYI the KB Street (water)440 blocks cost $5,650, if you want the lifter galley's drilled for push rod oiling that's an extra $350. They say these are good up to 2,500HP when ordered with 1/2 head studs.
This is a little more than Indy and others but they also come finish honed, with head studs/nuts for your heads, timing chain cover studs/nuts, and oil pan studs/nuts, screw in rear tranny dowel pins, rear main seal so there is $400 - $600 worth of extras that I don't believe the other come with for their stated price.
Mine cost $6,300 delivered to my door, finish honed and ready to assemble and that is with the $350 option for drilling oil galley.
Wade Metzinger 918-809-0987 71 Cuda 9.28@145 -1s, Pglide 68 Cuda 10.64@124 1.45 60's 318->390 eddys Moparts discount code on WIX - moparts www.Filter1.com
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Re: Keith Black block - Ordered 1/17, shipped 7/16
[Re: jamesc]
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07/19/14 10:57 PM
07/19/14 10:57 PM
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440Jim
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i'm not going to get into all the bickering and can understand why people would get upset. having said that best i can tell the lead time on a KB block has always been around 6 months.
I would order another one if I had 6-9 months before I needed it and I didn't have to put money down up front. But I asked directly about deliverly since I needed it in April and they didn't come through as promised and I paid up front for it.
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Re: Keith Black block - Ordered 1/17, shipped 7/16
[Re: 440Jim]
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07/19/14 11:48 PM
07/19/14 11:48 PM
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PA.
pittsburghracer
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Why are you selling it?????
1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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