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Re: baddest small block combo ever
[Re: b1n02cuda]
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12/16/08 11:47 PM
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long island new york
kingdust
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i got news for you, i only have 4 passes under my belt with my combo and none of those passes were clean runs, i'm already knockin on that 9.0 door and i have'nt even pushed motor hard yet or launched hard yet!. heres more news, that combo, or as a matter of fact my engine, came out of duster that was 3300lbs that ran in SS/AS that went 8.80s. whether you believe it or not, i dont care, i dont think its going to be easy, i still have alot of tuning to do, but im very confident i'll go into the 8s. and when i do i'll post the runs up here for you. merry christmas! 
LIFE IS A LESSON,YOU LEARN IT WHEN YOUR THROUGH!
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Re: baddest small block combo ever
[Re: SB449VALIANT]
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12/16/08 11:51 PM
12/16/08 11:51 PM
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first one is a Maskin, second it's from Paterson these engines where built way before pro stock truck ever exist...the one with black v. covers is a more friendly lol  ...820HP
   Thanks for the cool pics!
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Re: baddest small block combo ever
[Re: Leon441]
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12/17/08 06:17 AM
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Melbourne , Australia
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Craftsman Truck or some other roundy roundy racing doesn't do a W8 justice.
Just my  anyway
AL....
Ouch that hurt, I guess my junk that ran 8.50's on N2O @ 3350# and in the 4's (1/8 mi.) boosted was just that, JUNK.
Mike Gray
The circle track W8 heads are one of the baddest wedge heads ever done for any small block. They really favor power adders as they sacrifice intake valve for the larger exhaust valve. They also have thicker ports so they can possibly give more trouble free service. But, when you want the best flowing head. There is no argueing over the fact the drag race stuff originally done by CFE outflows the circle track stuff by a mile. Along with any other brand small block wedge heads.
I personally would like to see two W8 engines built alike other than the heads. One with the best circle track W8 and the other with the best drag race W8. NA there is no doubt the drag race head is capable of more HP. Get the bottle or boost in the picture and I just don't know. Depending on how much extra you are trying to make the the circle track head might surprise you. I do know that if you run nitrous on a CFE W8 you can use unbeleivable cam specs to make more power. I know my lobe centers and exhaust lobes would shock most people on here into disbeleif.
Leon
Sorry if I offended anyone with my comments, but facts are I haven't seen an oval track based normally aspirated WEDGE headed engine make 2.6-2.7+ HP/per cubic inch. Not trying to take anything away from anyone as per their achievements, they're just the facts. Walk through the pits and check out Comp Eliminator, there have been several examples over the time. Comparisons to a boosted or nitrous engine is like an apples to oranges comparison, as Leon stated in a roundabout way.
AL....
Alan Jones
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Re: baddest small block combo ever
[Re: kingdust]
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12/17/08 07:50 AM
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Central,Ohio
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i got news for you, i only have 4 passes under my belt with my combo and none of those passes were clean runs, i'm already knockin on that 9.0 door and i have'nt even pushed motor hard yet or launched hard yet!. heres more news, that combo, or as a matter of fact my engine, came out of duster that was 3300lbs that ran in SS/AS that went 8.80s. whether you believe it or not, i dont care, i dont think its going to be easy, i still have alot of tuning to do, but im very confident i'll go into the 8s. and when i do i'll post the runs up here for you. merry christmas!
With that kind of power and a good clutch and 4-speed deal at 3000 pounds,it could run the number you are looking for..
Dan Palolini's motor aka mine,back in 01 ran 8.84 at 3150 in a camaro with a nascar set of W8 cfe heads at 410 inches made around 850 horsepower back then!!!with a pro flite behind it on 10.5 tire.
So good luck... 
1969 Barracuda 8 second all/motor small block
2014 Shelby GT500 Mustang
Uratchko Racing Engines
www.URE-RACING.com
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Re: baddest small block combo ever
[Re: RyanJ]
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12/17/08 09:15 AM
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Orlando Fl
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What? no one noticed the W8 motor on the floor 367 posted is a SB CHEVY with W8's.... Early Maskin motor. Would a SB Chevy with Mopar heads on it constitute baddest SB mopar combo ever?  
Isn't that what a 48* 9 inch deck is anyway? Mine is a 4.125 bore with a 47 * lifter angle & siamese bores with steam holes, starting to sound like a 400 block to me. 
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Re: baddest small block combo ever
[Re: FASTFISH420]
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12/17/08 11:19 AM
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Thanks bro.I remember reading about that car I coulnt believe it had a smblk mopar in it I thought that was the coolest thing I had seen.is that the motor in your cuda? How fast have you been? That's a nice piece.some people on here just think they know it all.
LIFE IS A LESSON,YOU LEARN IT WHEN YOUR THROUGH!
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Re: baddest small block combo ever
[Re: kingdust]
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12/17/08 11:58 AM
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Mcallen, TX
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Thanks bro.I remember reading about that car I coulnt believe it had a smblk mopar in it I thought that was the coolest thing I had seen.is that the motor in your cuda? How fast have you been? That's a nice piece.some people on here just think they know it all.
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Re: baddest small block combo ever
[Re: kingdust]
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12/17/08 06:19 PM
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Central,Ohio
FASTFISH420
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Thanks bro.I remember reading about that car I coulnt believe it had a smblk mopar in it I thought that was the coolest thing I had seen.is that the motor in your cuda? How fast have you been? That's a nice piece.some people on here just think they know it all.
I had it in the car back in 05 to 06,It went as fast as 9.21 at 3100 pounds with a 727 trans..That motor would pull all the way to 9300rpm until it fell off..
The pic I sent acouple post up,Is my old motor I ran in 07.It made more power on the dyno and ran faster,but would not pull like the old motor would.After tear down to freshen it up, had all kinds of problems,heads mostly and also had crank damage and block failure and only had 14 runs on it,It ran good for a half blown up motor.it would run 8.90's high 80's in mind shaft air at 3050,but I only had it 9.0's.
New motor is a 419cube,should be done in the next couple months..it should be a monster!
1969 Barracuda 8 second all/motor small block
2014 Shelby GT500 Mustang
Uratchko Racing Engines
www.URE-RACING.com
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Re: baddest small block combo ever
[Re: FASTFISH420]
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12/17/08 06:58 PM
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Tom Mettler PST nhra record holder...
Tony
70 AARCuda Vitamin C
71 Dart Swinger 360 10.318 @ 128.22(10-04-14 Bakersfield)
71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas)
71 Duster 408 (10.29 @ 127.86 3/16/19 Las Vegas)
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Re: baddest small block combo ever
[Re: kingdust]
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12/17/08 10:57 PM
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landover, md
b1n02cuda
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i got news for you, i only have 4 passes under my belt with my combo and none of those passes were clean runs, i'm already knockin on that 9.0 door and i have'nt even pushed motor hard yet or launched hard yet!. heres more news, that combo, or as a matter of fact my engine, came out of duster that was 3300lbs that ran in SS/AS that went 8.80s. whether you believe it or not, i dont care, i dont think its going to be easy, i still have alot of tuning to do, but im very confident i'll go into the 8s. and when i do i'll post the runs up here for you. merry christmas!
I'm sure you will get the spray figured out.
It will probably take another 75-100 shot to go from 9.0's to 8.90's though.
Like I said before. It has to be light or it is not a true n/a motor. That means Gas, no alky, juice, turbo, blower, etc...
And that other car was a very aerodynamic bowtie, not an aerodynamically challenged duster or cuda or any other mopar for that matter. A good friend of mine tuned a 900 hp motor for 3 yrs and couldn't go in the 8's until he put it in a daytona, and bam, there was a 8.8 right off the bat. And that was complete drivetrain, fuel system, ignition system, and wheels and tires too. And the cars were only 50 lbs different.
Dude, I'm not saying it can't be done, but you would be the first, and I can't see you beating guys like Leon, Mike, Marty, and those guys to the punch. They have been there and done that!
Good luck
Merry Christmas to you too 
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Re: baddest small block combo ever
[Re: Plumb Wired]
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12/18/08 12:55 AM
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Flint, Michigan
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Tom Mettler PST nhra record holder...
What Kinda heads are those,
P5
Mike Gray
Now those are the heads MP should be selling! Not saying the W8s/9s are'nt great...but those P5s are just bad azz... 
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