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Hey Guys,

What are some of the higher end paint brands these days for a base/clear paint job? Is PPG still a top of the line paint?

Thanks!

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I believe Sikkens is one of the top brands, above PPG and Dupont. web page

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Hey Guys,

What are some of the higher end paint brands these days for a base/clear paint job? Is PPG still a top of the line paint?

Thanks!

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I believe Sikkens is one of the top brands, above PPG and Dupont. web page

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My friend is the Sikkens rep for this area and painted my car. We mistakenly painted the inspection covers in the engine bay gloss black. He told me to take them home and cabinet blast them and bring them back to be painted semi gloss. My cabinet blaster would not touch that paint! That and the number of "best paint" awards and "best of show" awards that the car has racked up due to the paint, makes me a Sikkens man all the way

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I represented them for 3 years, I was told Sikkens is used on like Mercedes, BMW and other hi end European cars, Lesonal is for like chevys, fords and mopars and U tech is for like farm implements.
This car is painted with Sikkens and is the nicest paint I have ever seen. It was not buffed or sanded. The panels were carried out of the paint booth and out to my trailer and put on the car at Axzo Nobel.
The guy in the black shirt is Tom Conway, he helped me tune my car. I have 6 guys on my team not counting Tom. Mike my crew chief is getting ready to turn on the racepak as soon as I put it into the first set of light beams.(pre stage)

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All very good choices for top of the line paints listed so far.....but the OP hasn't given a dollar figure he has in mind just for product alone, if he hasn't purchased paint ever, or product in some time, he's in for a shock, I have no issues dropping $500 to $1000 for a gallon of color, and another $3-$500 for clear on a high end paint product, it is what it is...but for some, the dollar amount decides the "quality" of paint....generally I refuse to paint a customers car with inferior grade economy lines offered by many of the current paint mfg's


So A34 is a $ fiqure part of your paint selection?, I know we all want the best bang for our buck, but we all have to pay the piper at some point

Mike

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Good question and point. My paint guy originally said he would use Glasurit, now he wants to use PPG. Ultimately, he said he'd use whatever I want. I'm trying to understand the rankings of quality. I want something that will give the longest lasting shine. I hope I never have to paint it again in my lifetime. So, for the next 40+ years what will stand the test of time?

Budget? Like most resto's I'm way over budget as is. What's another Grand? $500 to $1000 for paint is ok with me.

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The RM is very similar to the Glasurit products. I talked to a BASF rep at a trade show and he said he would personally not pay the extra money for the Glasurit over the RM.

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RM and Limco are Glasurits "base brands", much like OMNI or Nason is for others, fine if your looking to save some dollars, and are going to blow the car out down the road, but for a person ride I rather invest in the top end product as the solids and binders are in higher mix concentration, or quality

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I use dupont chromabase on almost everything now... mixed 1 to 1, a gallon will do a car in and out. Been using it and dupont clear for years. I used to use ppg, too expensive and not any better in my opinion than dupont.

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I use dupont chromabase on almost everything now... mixed 1 to 1, a gallon will do a car in and out. Been using it and dupont clear for years. I used to use ppg, too expensive and not any better in my opinion than dupont.

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Guy I know had his high dollar 71 curious yellow GTX painted using Dupont instead of PPG who has the orignial formulas for the colors.
Guess what...... WRONG color and now he has to live with it at every show, so much that he quit showing the car. He wishes now he would have spent the money for that too expensive paint.

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Yes Curious Yellow is difficult to achieve in Dupont Chroma Base/Preimier, it can be done, but only thru the color keys as I've done this in the past for an exact match in the Dupont line, as the computer formula has been main lined by combining the ALTs available into one formula, this can happen with any paint mfg, mixer/painter, or John Q Public walking into a paint shop/body shop uninformed


I've seen a guy paint his car in PPG PlumCrazy, he jambed the whole car first, and being the typical "frugal" Mopar guy only bought what he needed for jambing, when the time came for the final body, he went back to the same Authorized PPG paint store, same mixer....guess what it was like night/day between the PPG color matches, the car looked like crap...back to basics again, this can happen to anyone, and any paint mfg,....like I've said before there's no magical paint formula or brand that guarantees a true match 100% of the time, there's to many variables, esp today with computer mix formulas being dumbed down for the paint mixers


We all have our preferred brands that we learned/trained with, some have blinders and a feed bucket attached when looking at paint choices, myself I've been painting/airbrushing vehicles for close to 4 decades, I've used just about everything out there in the way of color/technique, I'm always open to learning about new techniques/products....but I do find it comical to hear the posts that brand X is the best because of this/that, OEM use, etc, etc...and the "best" paint and best paint "match" in the world means squat if the prep is crap, and/or the value shade/primer base is inappropriate for the color chosen...


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Regardless of which brand you use it is ALWAYS a good idea to have a small sample made up first. Do a spray out with it and look at it in all different lights. Compare it to other cars that color if you can. If it's not right your paint guy should be able to tint it to what you want. This should be done before you spend $1200 - $2500 on the wrong color.

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I use dupont chromabase on almost everything now... mixed 1 to 1, a gallon will do a car in and out. Been using it and dupont clear for years. I used to use ppg, too expensive and not any better in my opinion than dupont.

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Guy I know had his high dollar 71 curious yellow GTX painted using Dupont instead of PPG who has the orignial formulas for the colors.
Guess what...... WRONG color and now he has to live with it at every show, so much that he quit showing the car. He wishes now he would have spent the money for that too expensive paint.

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I use dupont chromabase on almost everything now... mixed 1 to 1, a gallon will do a car in and out. Been using it and dupont clear for years. I used to use ppg, too expensive and not any better in my opinion than dupont.

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Guy I know had his high dollar 71 curious yellow GTX painted using Dupont instead of PPG who has the orignial formulas for the colors.
Guess what...... WRONG color and now he has to live with it at every show, so much that he quit showing the car. He wishes now he would have spent the money for that too expensive paint.

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And there's no guarantee that ppg would have been correct either if it was mixed wrong... so sounds like the painter or who mixed it is to blame, not dupont!

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I use dupont chromabase on almost everything now... mixed 1 to 1, a gallon will do a car in and out. Been using it and dupont clear for years. I used to use ppg, too expensive and not any better in my opinion than dupont.

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Guy I know had his high dollar 71 curious yellow GTX painted using Dupont instead of PPG who has the orignial formulas for the colors.
Guess what...... WRONG color and now he has to live with it at every show, so much that he quit showing the car. He wishes now he would have spent the money for that too expensive paint.

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And there's no guarantee that ppg would have been correct either if it was mixed wrong... so sounds like the painter or who mixed it is to blame, not dupont!

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Why would the PPG supplier who has the correct formulas and equipment mix it wrong? The chances of that are 1000 to 1.

The dupont system does not have the correct color formulas for these cars like PPG has. So it is your choice. Guess at the color with Dupont and let them try to match the paint on an old part of the car or try to pick the correct yellow off a Dupont paint chart. There isn't one on their charts for curious yellow.

OR just get the correct color from PPG?????? I don't care who's paint YOU use, but without any doubt PPG has the color formulas that are correct for these cars. They were the original paint supplier.So at least you are starting out with the correct color.

The painter didn't mix it the Dupont supplier did with out the original formula. That's why it was wrong.

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And like I said, "or who mixed it is to blame" There have been colors I haven't been able to get, I don't have them guess and mix it, hoping it's the right color. So it's duponts fault someone screwed up mixing it? You can't blame a whole line for one persons mistake

I have used PPG, I never said it's bad paint... I said it's too expensive. Doesn't mean I won't use it, but I try to avoid it when possible. And having used both many times, I see no advantage other than sometimes the color does match better, but not always.

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And would everybody PLEASE include the paint type and formula for your car in the sale so that the poor sob that has to touch it up later has a starting point to work with! It would just make life easier for us that do this everyday.

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Oh, and never just buy enough. Buy one or two gallons more than you think you will need

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are you painting cars or buses?

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I use dupont chromabase on almost everything now... mixed 1 to 1, a gallon will do a car in and out. Been using it and dupont clear for years. I used to use ppg, too expensive and not any better in my opinion than dupont.

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Guy I know had his high dollar 71 curious yellow GTX painted using Dupont instead of PPG who has the orignial formulas for the colors.
Guess what...... WRONG color and now he has to live with it at every show, so much that he quit showing the car. He wishes now he would have spent the money for that too expensive paint.

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And there's no guarantee that ppg would have been correct either if it was mixed wrong... so sounds like the painter or who mixed it is to blame, not dupont!

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Why would the PPG supplier who has the correct formulas and equipment mix it wrong? The chances of that are 1000 to 1.

The dupont system does not have the correct color formulas for these cars like PPG has. So it is your choice. Guess at the color with Dupont and let them try to match the paint on an old part of the car or try to pick the correct yellow off a Dupont paint chart. There isn't one on their charts for curious yellow.

OR just get the correct color from PPG?????? I don't care who's paint YOU use, but without any doubt PPG has the color formulas that are correct for these cars. They were the original paint supplier.So at least you are starting out with the correct color.

The painter didn't mix it the Dupont supplier did with out the original formula. That's why it was wrong.

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And like I said, "or who mixed it is to blame" There have been colors I haven't been able to get, I don't have them guess and mix it, hoping it's the right color. So it's duponts fault someone screwed up mixing it? You can't blame a whole line for one persons mistake

I have used PPG, I never said it's bad paint... I said it's too expensive. Doesn't mean I won't use it, but I try to avoid it when possible. And having used both many times, I see no advantage other than sometimes the color does match better, but not always.

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