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Replacement for type F trans fluid #1635221
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I have been using type F fliud in my trans for years with excellent results, and this latest teardown has once again proved that,buttttt, it is getting almost impossible to find it around here lately and was what fluid would be a good alternative,,no synthetics please.


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Re: Replacement for type F trans fluid [Re: dartman366] #1635222
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They have it at TSC(Tractor Supply Company) under the
house brand.. thats what I've been buying

Re: Replacement for type F trans fluid [Re: dartman366] #1635223
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Re: Replacement for type F trans fluid [Re: go green] #1635224
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Bill I made the switch away from type F years ago and now use walmarts house brand (pretty sure its Castrol) but if you still want type F another option is to have it shipped to you. Some even offer FREE shipping.


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Re: Replacement for type F trans fluid [Re: dartman366] #1635225
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I have been using type F fliud in my trans for years with excellent results, and this latest teardown has once again proved that,buttttt, it is getting almost impossible to find it around here lately and was what fluid would be a good alternative,,no synthetics please.





Couldn`t find type-F on my last service and went w/Dextron/mercon 3.............


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Re: Replacement for type F trans fluid [Re: Thumperdart] #1635226
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Re: Replacement for type F trans fluid [Re: dartman366] #1635227
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NAPA here doesn't carry it anymore, don't even show it in the catalog to order. I did find it at Auto Zone in their house brand. That's what I use now.


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Re: Replacement for type F trans fluid [Re: dartman366] #1635228
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no synthetics please.



Why not? A good synthetic ATF holds up to the heat better.

Re: Replacement for type F trans fluid [Re: go green] #1635229
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John Deere . Hy-Gard Hydraulic/Transmission Oil


What the big dogs run in their automatics .


I am going to check into this cause I have a JD dealer just down the street, I did find one 12 bottle case at Advance of their brand which I have used before to get me thru, I wonder if the TCI fluid is similar to the hy-gard as it looked like light motor oil.


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Re: Replacement for type F trans fluid [Re: PorkyPig] #1635230
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no synthetics please.



Why not? A good synthetic ATF holds up to the heat better.


it is also slipperyer and the trans guys that I know have told me that under racing conditions clutch's and bands don't grip as well, yes it is great for high heat conditions and street driven vehicles.


Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
Re: Replacement for type F trans fluid [Re: dartman366] #1635231
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O'Reilly Auto Parts still has Type F. Picked up a case last week.

Re: Replacement for type F trans fluid [Re: dartman366] #1635232
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no synthetics please.



Why not? A good synthetic ATF holds up to the heat better.


it is also slipperyer and the trans guys that I know have told me that under racing conditions clutch's and bands don't grip as well, yes it is great for high heat conditions and street driven vehicles.



FWIW, I've had really good result with this in a heavy 10 second street strip car.

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=52

Re: Replacement for type F trans fluid [Re: PorkyPig] #1635233
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no synthetics please.



Why not? A good synthetic ATF holds up to the heat better.


it is also slipperyer and the trans guys that I know have told me that under racing conditions clutch's and bands don't grip as well, yes it is great for high heat conditions and street driven vehicles.



FWIW, I've had really good result with this in a heavy 10 second street strip car.

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=52


I do know guys that run the redline products and like them, I also know guys that use Amsoil products and like them also, I am not going to bash the products because if they weren't any good they wouldn't be in bussiness, I know a racer that has a trans shop and I know he experemented with the synthetics and he didn't like the results, he is one of the guys that told me those products have their place but he went back to dino fluid, street/strip may be fine, but i want to stay with what I know works.


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Re: Replacement for type F trans fluid [Re: dartman366] #1635234
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no synthetics please.



Why not? A good synthetic ATF holds up to the heat better.


it is also slipperyer and the trans guys that I know have told me that under racing conditions clutch's and bands don't grip as well, yes it is great for high heat conditions and street driven vehicles.



FWIW, I've had really good result with this in a heavy 10 second street strip car.

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=52


I do know guys that run the redline products and like them, I also know guys that use Amsoil products and like them also, I am not going to bash the products because if they weren't any good they wouldn't be in bussiness, I know a racer that has a trans shop and I know he experemented with the synthetics and he didn't like the results, he is one of the guys that told me those products have their place but he went back to dino fluid, street/strip may be fine, but i want to stay with what I know works.





I went through this with a counter guy at one of the places that didn't have type F. He was trying to explain to me that "today's"
transmissions needed the type fluid he had in stock. I explained to him, that my transmission wasn't one of the "today" units. It was a '60's-'70's type that had always worked fine with type F and that was what it was going to get.


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Re: Replacement for type F trans fluid [Re: CHAPPER] #1635235
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I think it's time for big John at CRT to chime in.


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Re: Replacement for type F trans fluid [Re: Crizila] #1635236
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I just switched over to ATI's Super F. It is a synthetic but no noticeable difference in performance in the Stocker.


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Re: Replacement for type F trans fluid [Re: sixpackbee] #1635237
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I asked Jim paquette, who owned and ran JPT( Jim's performance transmissions) his whole life until retiring recently about tranny fluid for 727's 10 years ago or so when he built the tranny for my ex car. He said to stick with type F, and preferred pennzoil type F as his favorite. He did pretty much all the C4/C6 Ford stuff for anybody who is somebody in stock and super stock for years and years nationally. His brother Ray campaigns a thunderbolt in SS/B, and has forever.
I trust his knowledge more regards trannies than anybody. So if he says only type F, I would give that opinion considerable weight

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Re: Replacement for type F trans fluid [Re: B3422W5] #1635238
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Wally mart Type F...they always have it here in Florida


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Re: Replacement for type F trans fluid [Re: dartman366] #1635239
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no synthetics please.



Why not? A good synthetic ATF holds up to the heat better.


it is also slipperyer and the trans guys that I know have told me that under racing conditions clutch's and bands don't grip as well, yes it is great for high heat conditions and street driven vehicles.


what a crock of crap they told you

Re: Replacement for type F trans fluid [Re: Quicktree] #1635240
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"what a crock of crap they told you "

Hate to bust your bubble, but that's exactly why Type F is preferred over synthetics for racing clutch packs.....


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