i think i have about 8-10 hrs (about average for a full system) into that one. Alot of the time comes from that each tube needs to be welded together,---so its weld a little--wait for the welder to cool---weld a little,--- wait for the welder to cool, etc, etc. That sytem was tacked with a mig then fully tiged together. As you can see, its an x-pipe, merged into a single 3", into a flowmaster 3" in and dual 2.5" out. I welded chrome stainless tips onto the muffler outlets after i painted the whole system.

To be honest, i hear that it sounded awsome, but i never got to hear it myself. I usually go to where the car is to do the work, and this one had some funky issues that without the owner around, i didnt want to start it myself.

I see that Speedway motors has header kits, and a bunch of mandrel bends as a set..(various bends)..I ordered some.
1 set of headers comin up!.....sure am glad I have a dummy engine in a parts truck, complete with 833 od, and clutch linkage just like my driver!
At least that way I can take my time and do it right.
I am goin to use a hemi muffler to keep it reasonably quiet, with 2.5 in tubes from the headers back......2 into one, then the rest of the system, all the way back to the roll pan, with a turndown.
O.G.

way cool 13 pages ! must be a small welder? i can hardly wait to see the headers , dont forget to take build up pictures! still no truck smiley

How come you see 13 pages? I show 25 pages on my computer. the 440 truck thread is almost up to 100 pages on my computer..

My tig is good size, but the gun isn't watercooled so after a while it obviously hurts to hold it---its like trying to grab onto a hot header tube

Yes, my mig is smaller so it takes awhile to git-r'-done


Oh yea---still no truck smiley

now thats weird! ah i see, i know our tig at work has a cooler i guess i didnt think they cost very much, come to think of it we may even have 2 coolers , one extra . im still not sure what to think of the difference in pages , maybe something in settings

i just went and checked out the 440 truck post and mine shows 50 pages , im think our settings are different

I have a squarewave, has a cooler. I want somethin that aint out there to my knowledge.
I have looked for 3 into one collectors, no luck there either, but I am sure I can build those too.
It's just metal.

O.G.

What truck smiley?

Ok, i messed with the settings and got my page count right---not really sure what i did

And i got the truck inspected tonight--passed with flying colors (cough cough)--good to know people as things like the e-brake and cat converter/airpump arent functional or even there. Those are some of the things i have to work on before next year.

And as another note, this being the first time i actually drove this truck any distance, i definately have my work cut out for me, the truck has issues that need to be taken care of. I have a new cap/rotor and set of wires coming tommorow from summit and picked up plugs tonight. then i can start dialing in the carb and hopefully cure some of the motor running issues i have. Till next time....

oh, still no truck smiley

State inspection?....what's that?
None required in Oklahoma.
Scarey isnt it?

that is scary! they are gettin tougher every year out here, what kind of running problems are you having with the truck? just curious. have you ever had any experience with demon carbs? seems its a love it or hate kind of thing. still waiting on the truck smiley

Just think guys, poor ol' Webster has been in Myrtle beach....At spring break no less....

poor guy, i would have gone with him for moral support, but i guess he wanted to be the tough guy and go it alone

Demon carbs

I LOVE original style holley carbs. But for dependability, it has been in my experience, that edelbrocks are the best---which i put a 750 on this truck.

Running problems, included removing the quadrajunk carb so no it at least runs ok, its very rough running, but im thinking the plugs are wiped out from the ill running Q-Jet, the plug wires are el'cheapo something or other as is the cap and rotor, the thing sounds like its running on about 6 cylinders, the drivers side head has the end studs broken off, so it exhaust leaks like crazy from the headers, 99% sure all 4 tires are out of balance (doesnt surprise me if it was sitting), the fan shroud was cracked unbeknownst to me which made a hell of a racket when it moved and the fan hit it, i have to pull the distrib and see whats up with that because i think someone has put to light of springs in it, this amoung a not so great ride quality (or maybe it was the poor running the made the ride unquality, LOL).

Also, i noticed the kick down was made/modified (which i have no problem with), but its not exactly right (which i do have a problem with), so when i went to punch it, besides it spitting/farting/backfireing all over the place as it was gaining speed, it put the trans into nuetral for a HUGE surprise under almost full throttle which i was not expecting.

So basically, if you drive it like grandma, it'll be fine, past that, forget it. I just need to spend some time with it (like a full weekend) and get it sorted all out as this motor is a complete unknown.

Up next on the list is a compression check, new plugs/wires/cap/rotor. Then i will borrow my friends leakdown checker to see what is really up with this engine and to see if its sound enough for future mods.

very interesting point of view, from the experience i have had most carbs that i find now have been messed with and rebuilt so many times that they are better suited as boat anchors, the main throttle shaft is so worn and the vacuum leak will never let it run right , not to mention the rebuilds were done by people who arent exactly experts . and i have to disagree with the fact that you dont seem to care for demons, i have never had a carb that has run so good right out of the box , i have had nothing but good luck with them and little or no problems at all

so what are you gonna do about the broken studs ? drill and tap? sounds like you have your work cut out for ya , maybe make friends with the local tire guys see if they will cut you a deal on some good used tires too

YEP!Test+tune is the ONLY way to figure out if you're making progress!

i only wish we had good enough weather out here to do that, it was hailing out here 30 minutes ago as big as a ping pong ball, im glad the old truck was in the garage! still no truck smiley!

Yuck! Been darn cold here all week!Right around freezing but with a nasty wind to keep things miserable!

Yes, i have my work cut out for me.

The broken studs---when i get to that, im thinking of drilling out and hopefully saving whats there, or i'll heli-coil them.

Did a compression test today, motor is in fair shape, Crawled underneath to se that it was a '85 360 that got put in it. Also notoed its not a 727 trans as advertised, but rather a 904, and im really starting to think that it doest have a 360 weighted converter in it either the way it vibrates.

Test as follows
#1 -- 140psi
#3 -- 140
#5 -- 140
#7 -- 140
#2 -- 140
#4 -- 130
#6 -- 135
#8 -- 135

I also decided to rebuild the distributor and recurve it while i was in there, and that started the new problem, now i cant get it started. It seems like the battery mysteriously died, but i did get it to just start up then it died and the battery died so no restart. Not sure why the battery died just sitting there all day, and there appears to be no draw on it so i dont know. I guess i will go through the entire engine electrical and get that straightened out now. Oh, BTW i think some of my misfire was from the old cap having green corroded terminals, i also installed fresh plugs too, so if i can get it started, it should run much better. So right now the battery is on the charger for the night.

compression looks good sounds like you are weeding out the problems, also sounds like the truck just wasnt maintained very well im sure its in good hands now