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Re: To undercoat or not to undercoat [Re: Aar1064] #1625656
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Re: To undercoat or not to undercoat [Re: Aar1064] #1625657
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Re: To undercoat or not to undercoat [Re: Aar1064] #1625658
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Re: To undercoat or not to undercoat [Re: Aar1064] #1625659
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Re: To undercoat or not to undercoat [Re: Aar1064] #1625660
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It looks great. I'd only undercoat the wheel wells. When I see a restored car undercoated I always think they trying to hide panel replacement. Besides do you really want to cover up all your hard work?


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Re: To undercoat or not to undercoat [Re: steve70] #1625661
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you can always put it on later.

Re: To undercoat or not to undercoat [Re: Aar1064] #1625662
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Great job, cool seeing the factory over spray!! That's the way to do it, I use reg gasoline in a pump up sprayer to soften the tuff stuff after the first go round.

I would only do the wheel wells when it goes back together.

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It was your removal process as well as Scott Smith's that I saw and pushed me toward getting the high pressure steam washer. I tried the gasoline and it helped on some but not the wheel houses so I used the paint stripper. I'm sure if I'd been more patient it would've worked but I was running out of daylight.

Anyway it's off and I'm so glad. Thanks for posting your initial process.

Re: To undercoat or not to undercoat [Re: Aar1064] #1625664
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Cool deal, Yes my wheel wells were the toughest also to get off. I think some of that is road tar?, many layers of it little by little from over the years, not just undercoat.

Good luck with your car, you got the tough stuff done at this point. Enjoy your ride through restoration and when it's done!

After mine was in paint is when I really enjoyed putting it back together and working on it.

Re: To undercoat or not to undercoat [Re: Aar1064] #1625665
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Looks great, as per our e-mails here is my opinion:

As for the color underneath, I would (and did) go back as close to factory as I could. Keep in mind your car was an undercoated car so I would go back with it, I used the stuff Batalson sells and I am real happy with it. Undercoating goes on after paint so no overspray on it, just on the gray as your pictures show. As far as sound deadener,
how much are you really gonna drive the car and will the insolation from road noise really matter, think about it.


One of your questions was about value:

In the end I am not sure it will hurt value one way or the other, it will be the curb appeal that sells most cars for the dollar they go for. As for me if it was there I would put it back and if I bought a car of this level that was factory coded for it and it didn't have it I would take it apart at some point to correct it and of course use it to beat the owner up on the price, but I wouldn't pass on the car> because it was missing. The opposite is true if car had it and wasn't suppose to, I would think you were trying to hide something (but you have pictures to counter that) and would consider passing on it unless really priced in the dirt.

It is added after some of the assembly but I don't believe after full assembly so adding it later will not be as accurate as the rest of your build. I do love the way mine looks with the primer and overspray and the contrasting parts ont he belly but if it was an undercoated car it would be on it.


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Re: To undercoat or not to undercoat [Re: DAYCLONA] #1625666
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Quote:

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I have done it both ways and prefer less is better. It sounds like you are a bit like me, so I would do what the factory did (w/non undercoated cars) and undercoat the rear wheel wells as well as the front inner fender wells and call it a day!






Agreed....




me too.


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Re: To undercoat or not to undercoat [Re: DPelletier] #1625667
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yes,at the very least, wheel wells undercoated black.

Re: To undercoat or not to undercoat [Re: can.al] #1625668
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My 70 Cuda was coded for undercoating, but the undercoat was only in the wheel wells. It was a California car.

Here is the RH fender area.


Re: To undercoat or not to undercoat [Re: Snoopy] #1625669
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Undercoating on a restored car to me looks like the restorer is trying not to hide panel replacement so much as all the dents on the bottom side of these cars that they receive over the years of use. Yes, you can hide the plug welds on replacement panels too, but it also hides little dents and dings too. At any rate, it always looks to me that SOMETHING is being hid with undercoating, factory or not.......

I would agree that the overspray and primer look is, well, more. Not many people do this as it is more work, but it sure looks better, and just undercoating in wheel wells and front fender area.

Best of luck!!!!!

Re: To undercoat or not to undercoat [Re: Aar1064] #1625670
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Well after a lot of thought and suggestions from everyone here, I've decided to go factory gray specifically with what Rick sells at resto rick.com. Like I said in the beginning I don't mind the extra work I just want to do what I feel is right for the car. I started wiping it down last night with some zxlene, xlene, zylene, whatever, removing the film of undercoating and it's going to clean up nice. No dents to speak of so shouldn't be all that bad to get ready to prime then paint. Not sure I will go as far as body color overspray underneath but we'll see.
I appreciate all the feedback from everyone as it really helped.

Did I mention that I love this car.

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