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*Update: How will this 383 work for my Fury? #1623067
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Engine and auto, pulled 6mths ago from a 67 Newport. Has all acc. And radiator, $1000. Says it ran great, and i know the guy.
Ive got the 318 poly. Does it use the same motor mounts? Anything I should look for on the 383 that might affect its compatability?

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Re: How will this 383 work for my Fury? [Re: Bayoulee] #1623068
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Bayoulee,
I just finished a very similar swap and had practically no issues. Check with others about engine mount issues but I think it will just drop in.
Not a lot of detail but here's a link to my swap.
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=1#Post8075786

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Re: How will this 383 work for my Fury? [Re: Bayoulee] #1623069
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That's too much money for that. I'm assuming it has the center sump pan (not exactly in the center/more toward the front) so you're good there. Yes you'd need BB mounts for the Fury which may or may not be the same as the Newport BB mounts. I ain't a C body guy but I assume the SB and BB use the same Kmember. (check on the mts/check on the kmember/give him 6 bills)


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Re: How will this 383 work for my Fury? [Re: RapidRobert] #1623070
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RR they used the same K.The mounts should go right in.IIRC his Fury is a 66.IIRC 65 mounts are different and 66 was the change over year.I agree a grand is steep for a 383.With rad and trans totally complete Id say more like 500 or 600 max.Rocky


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Re: How will this 383 work for my Fury? [Re: Bayoulee] #1623071
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Is your Fury a C Body?

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65 mounts are different and 66 was the change over year.


Yeah Rock I woulda missed that


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Re: How will this 383 work for my Fury? [Re: RapidRobert] #1623073
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Yeah its a c body. The car is gone, so no mounts. I thought the 318 wide block might use the same motor mounts.
I agree,i wouldnt want to give a grand, but 500 seems real cheap for a guaranteed, matched motor, tranny, and radiator, particularly when he already has them pulled out. Its also in the next county over and diesel is expensive. Whats the most its wortth? Forgot to mention it has air which would need to come off.

Re: How will this 383 work for my Fury? [Re: RapidRobert] #1623074
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The Newport has the same front sub-frame as your Fury, everything will fit directly no issues.

If the guy will guarantee that the engine is not hurt and it has all the accessories I would jump on it in an instant.

Now the guarantee would be like if the engine pukes smoke out or has dead cylinders then get some of your money back, I would offer the seller a bit more, maybe $1200 to the seller have a third person in on the deal to hold half $600 until after the swap, (with some time frame for install) and it will be in the buyers best interest to help you install it and get it running so he can collect the remainder of his $$$


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Re: How will this 383 work for my Fury? [Re: Bayoulee] #1623075
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1k seems high for a low perf 383.


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What would the difference be in a hp and a lp factory 383?

Re: How will this 383 work for my Fury? [Re: modelmakerinc] #1623077
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If you toss the A/C you will need pulleys.Ma ran a funny setup for it back then.The bottom pulley will probally work as will the PS IIRC.WP pulley will need changed and probally the alt bracket.Its been a long time since Ive played with one that old.IIRC the poly mounts might work but the mounts on the motor will work.Id say 700 or so is on the hi side.383s dont bring big money.But if its a great setup the price is up to you.Rocky


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I would say 1k is not bad if it is indeed complete and runs good, a lot of the little stuff would add up quick converter, kick down linkage, trans cooler lines. BB trans core is a couple hundred around my parts. And guys asking 1k for a 383 long block they claim being rebuilt is normal.

Re: How will this 383 work for my Fury? [Re: therocks] #1623079
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Guys, you know what they say about opinions and butts?

A big block engine (383 and 400) and transmission Not needing an overhaul and a working cooling system included is easily 1200 all day long. Air cleaner to pan and fan to tail shaft for 1000 is a very fair deal. Once you start removing parts (fan and clutch, pulleys, brackets, carb, alt, water pump, manifolds etc) then I would agree that the value for a swap starts to drop. They don't make them anymore and hoarders (like myself) are hard at work scooping them up so I recommend don't delay too long in your choosing.
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Re: How will this 383 work for my Fury? [Re: Bayoulee] #1623080
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Also remember 67s if you change cams even a small one you need new push rods.67 was the last year for the tapered ones.68 up uses the new style.Rocky


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Is this due to piston shape? Would different heads rectify this issue? i planned to add a bigger cam as a relatively easy upgrade.
So AFTER 67, theres no camming issues?

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Heads have nothing to do with the cam lifters Prods.It was just the design.thats why cams for BB are 68 up.You just need to change cam lifters and pushrods.Heads will have soft seats unless someone had hardended seats installed.But you can still get by with the OE ones if decent and you dont drive 10 or 15K a year.Rocky


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Re: How will this 383 work for my Fury? [Re: Bayoulee] #1623083
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Bayoulee, Don't get sidetracked with engine upgrades at this time, there will be enough added (hidden or not obvious) expenses with the swap itself.

IE: carb rebuild or new carb, belts, hoses, couple oil changes, exhaust, (Headers and exhaust?), coolant, maybe a coolant flush, gaskets, paint, transmission filter and fluid, maybe a set of u-joints, maybe buy a mini starter. None of this addresses the brakes or suspension if they are adequate for the added power & weight.

These are quite a few things you will want to address/ service while the swap is in the process.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is meant to be a low buck improvement/ power increase

Get the swap done first then go back at your leisure and upgrade cam, intake, maybe some bling like valve covers , air cleaner and such.

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Its still a lot easier to swap the cam out.Yeah Cs have room but with the motor on the ground it easy.that and you have no idea what the timing chain is in and might be the plastic one.You should pull the pan and new gasket it so might as well do the cam at the same time.Summits small cam setup would slip right in.Push rods are like 30 to 40 bucks at Summit.Its out so get it done when out.Furys brakes should be adequate as should be the suspension.Thats as long as they are in good shape.Rocky


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It does have new brakes, suspension Im not sure of, but I read somewhere that the 318 poly was only a few lbs lighter than the 440.
In terms of budget, I try to do everything as low budget as possible, but I don't want to cost myself time, money, and hassles down the road, if I can get what I need now. I don't care about bling, I just want performance. The headers and starter do appeal to me though. Yes, it does have a 2 barrel, so youre right, carb and intake also.
Thanks for the ideas- I need to think about all these things.

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