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Re: Payouts are going downhill. [Re: Eric] #1619513 05/14/14 12:39 PM 05/14/14 12:39 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 661 O-H-I-O sixpackjeff mopar
sixpackjeff mopar Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 661 O-H-I-O	Quote: Quote: Quote: Sorry but I have to laugh when I read posts like this. Are you really into drag racing for the money? MOPAR races are put on by MOPAR lovers at tracks they rent, rain or shine. Out of the entry monies and some sponsor money they pay rent, advertising, sometimes food, bands, round money, finalist money, and who knows what else. These guys aren't rich enough to own tracks so they rent them for the weekend. I know it cost 1000 dollars to prep the track surface before a single car makes a pass. Add insurance, taxes, ambulance coverage, payroll, and probably 50 other things I'm forgetting. The choice is yours to make. You can go and have fun with other MOPAR lovers, stay home and cut the grass, or maybe you are capable of putting a race together with big payouts. If you do don't forget to advertise and have a personality people like. I use to go to a lot of mopar races... but it nice when someone has a nice payout... not a damn thing wrong with that My feelings exactly... I usually don't respond to things like this but Pat seem to be addressing my race specifically. As everyone knows, the days of big, or any, sponsorships are over. We used to pay a $30,000 purse at Norwalk for a $60 entry fee. Good times... Bottom line on the reduction? You said it yourself. You're not coming. The more who play, the more we pay. Stay home and the events go away. How many Mopar events have we lost in the last three years? Just sayin. Bottom line is this. If you say you race for money and you're not driving a BBC dragster, you're lying. Respect. 8144377-ClassicAdCPMc14.jpg (70 downloads)

Re: Payouts are going downhill. [Re: sixpackjeff] #1619514 05/14/14 01:11 PM 05/14/14 01:11 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,413 Newark,Ohio kissmyaspen pro stock
kissmyaspen pro stock Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,413 Newark,Ohio	Quote: Bottom line is this. If you say you race for money and you're not driving a BBC dragster, you're lying. Respect. I disagree with that.. don't get me wrong that the cheaper way to go. but I know a lot of people who don't run dragsters and are great at big money races. But I do agree with the more to play the more you pay.. that's what you have to do from a track operator and promoters perspective.. the biggest thing that kills me about a lot of people is that they don't see a race track/promoting as a business. 79 Dodge Aspen 12.265 at 109.75 MPH 67 Satellite NSS/E 11.83 @ 110 1968 Plymouth Road Runner 472 Hemi 3 time MOPAR NATIONALS CHAMP '03 FWD and '06 & '09 Street. '07, '10, '12 Mopar Nats runner-up Street.

Re: Payouts are going downhill. [Re: kissmyaspen] #1619515 05/14/14 01:36 PM 05/14/14 01:36 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama M MRMOPAR622 top fuel
MRMOPAR622 top fuel M Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama	Quote: Quote: Bottom line is this. If you say you race for money and you're not driving a BBC dragster, you're lying. Respect. I disagree with that.. don't get me wrong that the cheaper way to go. but I know a lot of people who don't run dragsters and are great at big money races. But I do agree with the more to play the more you pay.. that's what you have to do from a track operator and promoters perspective.. the biggest thing that kills me about a lot of people is that they don't see a race track/promoting as a business. I agree the door-cars are just as good as the dragsters,so with that being said take your door-cars to the track and race.Don't go are not go there because of the dragsters.And don't go there after saying all week you are not Skeered to run a dragster and the 1st thing that comes out of your mouth is "Its Not Fair For The Door-Cars To Have To Run Against The Dragsters Because they Have an Advantage" This is for everyone and not directed at kissmyaspen.We all built our cars to Race didn't we? We have 3 door-cars & 2 dragsters,does that not tell everyone something. We Best all start enjoying our Race-Cars while we are still allowed to own Race-Cars.Most Cities now don't even want Race-Cars in the City Limits,the small Town I live in will only allow you to have a Race-Car in the City limits if it is in a fully enclosed building. If we set back and make excuse's for the reason we do not race the Purse for the Races will not only keep going down hill but will Stop when there is no more Races run. "To Be The Man'You Have Got To Beat The Man" "T/D and Pro-Bracket Racer"

Re: Payouts are going downhill. [Re: sixpackjeff] #1619516 05/14/14 01:37 PM 05/14/14 01:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Sorry but I have to laugh when I read posts like this. Are you really into drag racing for the money? MOPAR races are put on by MOPAR lovers at tracks they rent, rain or shine. Out of the entry monies and some sponsor money they pay rent, advertising, sometimes food, bands, round money, finalist money, and who knows what else. These guys aren't rich enough to own tracks so they rent them for the weekend. I know it cost 1000 dollars to prep the track surface before a single car makes a pass. Add insurance, taxes, ambulance coverage, payroll, and probably 50 other things I'm forgetting. The choice is yours to make. You can go and have fun with other MOPAR lovers, stay home and cut the grass, or maybe you are capable of putting a race together with big payouts. If you do don't forget to advertise and have a personality people like. I use to go to a lot of mopar races... but it nice when someone has a nice payout... not a damn thing wrong with that My feelings exactly... I usually don't respond to things like this but Pat seem to be addressing my race specifically. As everyone knows, the days of big, or any, sponsorships are over. We used to pay a $30,000 purse at Norwalk for a $60 entry fee. Good times... Bottom line on the reduction? You said it yourself. You're not coming. The more who play, the more we pay. Stay home and the events go away. How many Mopar events have we lost in the last three years? Just sayin. Bottom line is this. If you say you race for money and you're not driving a BBC dragster, you're lying. Respect. say what i won quite a few races with a BB Mopar dragster

Re: Payouts are going downhill. [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1619517 05/14/14 02:30 PM 05/14/14 02:30 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,413 Newark,Ohio kissmyaspen pro stock
kissmyaspen pro stock Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,413 Newark,Ohio	Quote: Quote: Quote: Bottom line is this. If you say you race for money and you're not driving a BBC dragster, you're lying. Respect. I disagree with that.. don't get me wrong that the cheaper way to go. but I know a lot of people who don't run dragsters and are great at big money races. But I do agree with the more to play the more you pay.. that's what you have to do from a track operator and promoters perspective.. the biggest thing that kills me about a lot of people is that they don't see a race track/promoting as a business. I agree the door-cars are just as good as the dragsters,so with that being said take your door-cars to the track and race.Don't go are not go there because of the dragsters.And don't go there after saying all week you are not Skeered to run a dragster and the 1st thing that comes out of your mouth is "Its Not Fair For The Door-Cars To Have To Run Against The Dragsters Because they Have an Advantage" This is for everyone and not directed at kissmyaspen.We all built our cars to Race didn't we? We have 3 door-cars & 2 dragsters,does that not tell everyone something. We Best all start enjoying our Race-Cars while we are still allowed to own Race-Cars.Most Cities now don't even want Race-Cars in the City Limits,the small Town I live in will only allow you to have a Race-Car in the City limits if it is in a fully enclosed building. If we set back and make excuse's for the reason we do not race the Purse for the Races will not only keep going down hill but will Stop when there is no more Races run. That's funny that you say not directed to me.. because if you was in ohio you would know im not afraid of dragsters. 79 Dodge Aspen 12.265 at 109.75 MPH 67 Satellite NSS/E 11.83 @ 110 1968 Plymouth Road Runner 472 Hemi 3 time MOPAR NATIONALS CHAMP '03 FWD and '06 & '09 Street. '07, '10, '12 Mopar Nats runner-up Street.

Re: Payouts are going downhill. [Re: kissmyaspen] #1619518 05/14/14 02:35 PM 05/14/14 02:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,226 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,226 Park Forest, IL	Personally, I have always thought the promoters cut their own throats when they started piling more and more events into the same area. Not to mention that Blankenships pissed off a bunch of people with their shady practices. As far as spectator attendance at the local tracks, it will never be what it was back in the '70's because at that time there were only a handful of national events, so all the big name guys and small guys made their living match racing. Seeing your hero at your local track was the only way a lot of people got to see them other on Wide World of Sports after a month delay. "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: Payouts are going downhill. [Re: slantzilla] #1619519 05/14/14 03:06 PM 05/14/14 03:06 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,204 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,204 PA.	For those that want to run for some BIG monies check out this weekends race and the pay-outs and entry fees below. http://dragraceresults.com/fullstory.cfm...aSOA7k.facebook 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Payouts are going downhill. [Re: pittsburghracer] #1619520 05/14/14 03:23 PM 05/14/14 03:23 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,475 SW Ohio C cgall top fuel
cgall top fuel C Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,475 SW Ohio	I was glad to see Jeff get the race at C-bus back, as that is one Mopar event that I will attend even if the payouts aren't what they used to be. The swap meet and car show have been down from past years as well, but this show is still attended well enough to make it worthwhile. Last year there were over 100 cars in the no-box gambler and Charlie actually paid the semi's. Other than this race, I have to agree that I'll stay home and run local rather than travel to a Mopar race that doesn't pay much. I too count on every $50 and $75 I can get to continue racing. That's why I will never attend another Monster Mopar race.

Re: Payouts are going downhill. [Re: kissmyaspen] #1619521 05/14/14 06:20 PM 05/14/14 06:20 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama M MRMOPAR622 top fuel
MRMOPAR622 top fuel M Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Bottom line is this. If you say you race for money and you're not driving a BBC dragster, you're lying. Respect. I disagree with that.. don't get me wrong that the cheaper way to go. but I know a lot of people who don't run dragsters and are great at big money races. But I do agree with the more to play the more you pay.. that's what you have to do from a track operator and promoters perspective.. the biggest thing that kills me about a lot of people is that they don't see a race track/promoting as a business. I agree the door-cars are just as good as the dragsters,so with that being said take your door-cars to the track and race.Don't go are not go there because of the dragsters.And don't go there after saying all week you are not Skeered to run a dragster and the 1st thing that comes out of your mouth is "Its Not Fair For The Door-Cars To Have To Run Against The Dragsters Because they Have an Advantage" This is for everyone and not directed at kissmyaspen.We all built our cars to Race didn't we? We have 3 door-cars & 2 dragsters,does that not tell everyone something. We Best all start enjoying our Race-Cars while we are still allowed to own Race-Cars.Most Cities now don't even want Race-Cars in the City Limits,the small Town I live in will only allow you to have a Race-Car in the City limits if it is in a fully enclosed building. If we set back and make excuse's for the reason we do not race the Purse for the Races will not only keep going down hill but will Stop when there is no more Races run. That's funny that you say not directed to me.. because if you was in ohio you would know im not afraid of dragsters. We are not that far from each other I'm willing to put up some $$$ and put a Dial In on them or do a Heads Up race anytime for Big $$$.Try my BBC Dragster,and to be honest I have won more race with my Red Big Block Mopar dragster.But its been sold and I now have a brand new dragster as well as my 2012 dragster now lets see if you are afraid of dragster or not! Last edited by MRMOPAR622; 05/14/14 06:25 PM. "To Be The Man'You Have Got To Beat The Man" "T/D and Pro-Bracket Racer"

Re: Payouts are going downhill. [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1619522 05/14/14 10:57 PM 05/14/14 10:57 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,413 Newark,Ohio kissmyaspen pro stock
kissmyaspen pro stock Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,413 Newark,Ohio	I'm game... I have put 4.50 dragster on the trailer before running 7.8's. 79 Dodge Aspen 12.265 at 109.75 MPH 67 Satellite NSS/E 11.83 @ 110 1968 Plymouth Road Runner 472 Hemi 3 time MOPAR NATIONALS CHAMP '03 FWD and '06 & '09 Street. '07, '10, '12 Mopar Nats runner-up Street.

Re: Payouts are going downhill. [Re: kissmyaspen] #1619523 05/15/14 12:44 AM 05/15/14 12:44 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama M MRMOPAR622 top fuel
MRMOPAR622 top fuel M Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,008 Sweet Home Alabama	Quote: I'm game... I have put 4.50 dragster on the trailer before running 7.8's. I take you up on that bet anywhere from a $5,000.00-$10,000.00 per run best 2 out of 3 or 3 out of 5 or we can put all the $$$ on one run.We will put the $$$ up 1st and if either is a no show the other wins,if its a 2 out of 3 or a 3 out of 5 and one of us breaks the other one wins all the $$$. I have no problem in upping the $$$. "To Be The Man'You Have Got To Beat The Man" "T/D and Pro-Bracket Racer"

Re: Payouts are going downhill. [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1619524 05/15/14 01:04 PM 05/15/14 01:04 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,204 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,204 PA.	Rain-out at Bristol today so they run for 40,000.00 tomorrow. This was posted by a Friend. Rained out today at the Fling, so we race for double tomorrow! $40k to win! They also rented an entire bowling alley for the racers so we can all have a fun day today. This race is unbelievable! How's that for promoting and putting on a race? 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Payouts are going downhill. [Re: pittsburghracer] #1619525 05/15/14 02:40 PM 05/15/14 02:40 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,178 Indy FlyFish super stock
FlyFish super stock Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,178 Indy	Quote: Rain-out at Bristol today so they run for 40,000.00 tomorrow. This was posted by a Friend. Rained out today at the Fling, so we race for double tomorrow! $40k to win! They also rented an entire bowling alley for the racers so we can all have a fun day today. This race is unbelievable! How's that for promoting and putting on a race? That's AWESOME!! Nice to see folks taking car of the customer (which is the racer in this case). 67 Barracuda street car, 408, e85, 1.38 60', 6.44 @105.9 in the 1/8 mile, 10.19 @130.5 in the 1/4...so far....

Re: Payouts are going downhill. [Re: FlyFish] #1619526 05/15/14 03:14 PM 05/15/14 03:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio dartman366 I Live Here
dartman366 I Live Here Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio	I have also put a number of dragsters on the trailer over the years so,,,no fear! Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.

Re: Payouts are going downhill. [Re: dartman366] #1619527 05/15/14 10:16 PM 05/15/14 10:16 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,422 Pittsburgh PA Eric top fuel
Eric top fuel Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,422 Pittsburgh PA	I race different races for different reasons. IHRA Divisionals in quest of an Ironman. Mopar races to hang with friends. Big money bracket races to try for a payday. I like them all...and I like dragsters too....they taste like chicken... 5.53 @ 125 1/8th on the launch control..more left in her!

Re: Payouts are going downhill. [Re: Eric] #1619528 05/16/14 12:21 AM 05/16/14 12:21 AM
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 515 geezer acres rest home D dakotawilly mopar
dakotawilly mopar D Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 515 geezer acres rest home	40k!!!!!, ha,i bet the beers are 75 bucks each...... SFI 25.5 depends,no leak,even at 213 mph....

Re: Payouts are going downhill. [Re: 1BadLiLCharger] #1619529 05/18/14 11:16 PM 05/18/14 11:16 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 223 Ohio H Hemi Joe enthusiast
Hemi Joe enthusiast H Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 223 Ohio	The Mopar Race that really amazes me is The Mopar Nationals. As I look at their ad in Mopar Action Magazine, they don't even list what the racer will win, on their race or show application. Not only do they get away with not allowing its customers permission to stay over night at the race track,but they don't even have to show what the racer or show car people will win. It appears that Mr. Belinda is in no way interested in providing the racer anything but a place to race! And a big Pay Day for him! HEMI JOE

Re: Payouts are going downhill. [Re: Hemi Joe] #1619530 05/19/14 07:35 PM 05/19/14 07:35 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 92 Michigan Kudakid member
Kudakid member Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 92 Michigan	Its listed on their website www.moparnats.org and was listed earlier in this thread 2010 Challenger R/T 2001 Jeep Cherokee 1970 AAR Cuda 1970 T/A

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