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Re: "Custom 33" [Re: Matt Erich] #1613491
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4 link mocked up on my chassis.

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Re: "Custom 33" [Re: Crizila] #1613492
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Old school tires and wheels going on my 33.


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Re: "Custom 33" [Re: Crizila] #1613495
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Re: "Custom 33" [Re: Crizila] #1613496
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Re: "Custom 33" [Re: Crizila] #1613497
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Looks like fun, wiring a fiberglass car has its challenges DAMHIK.


56 Plaza 63 D100 step side 67 Coronet, 68 Roadrunner, 69 Super Bees, 69 Coronet 500 convertible, 70 Roadrunner Post, 79 D150 360, and a severe case of Mopar a,d,d
Re: "Custom 33" [Re: moparpollack] #1613498
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Looks like fun, wiring a fiberglass car has its challenges DAMHIK.


Ya, can you say - lots of grounds .


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Re: "Custom 33" [Re: Crizila] #1613499
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bus bars come in handy.

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I need to start playing mega millions that would be an awesome race car

Re: "Custom 33" [Re: theraif] #1613501
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I need to start playing mega millions that would be an awesome race car


Should run mid /hi 12's with a warmed up 360 / 727 and 3.55 gears.

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Re: "Custom 33" [Re: Crizila] #1613502
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Thanks for the pictures John! Its always fun watching customer builds in the process and from looking at your previous builds I am sure the 33 is going to turn out great!

The ground problem will likely be very minimal as we have full 1/4 thick steel floors and interior caging that bolts directly to the frame. This should make finding a solid ground easy and quick.

Good luck on the build and like I have always said call anytime!!!!!!!

Matt


Owner of Custom33.com 1933 Plymouth Coupe and Roadster Kits
Re: "Custom 33" [Re: Matt Erich] #1613503
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1/4" thick steel floors? Why? Are you a retired Ford engineer who truly believes that "road-hugging weight" advertisement?

Just checking...
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" Are you a retired Ford engineer". - BIT YOUR TONGUE!!! 1/4" floor plates bolt through the body, body bushings, and in to the frame rails with 12 1/2"-20 bolts to stiffen up the center of the chassis. I want both front tires to get "equal air" when I push on that red NO2 button.


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Re: "Custom 33" [Re: Crizila] #1613505
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just wondering out loud here. what thickness is the chassis rails ? and with all that plate in the floor, how heavy will it end up being ? with that mass, it should be a good riding car with the correct spring package. incidentally, what rate springs does it use ?

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just wondering out loud here. what thickness is the chassis rails ? and with all that plate in the floor, how heavy will it end up being ? with that mass, it should be a good riding car with the correct spring package. incidentally, what rate springs does it use ?



Chassis rails = 1/4" wall 2X4. Weight = guess 21-2300 lbs. Car will be fully equipped as a driver - heat, A/C, full exhaust, undercoated, etc. Spring rates; Carrera QA1 adjustable coil overs on all corners. frt. 200 / rr. 125.


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Re: "Custom 33" [Re: moparx] #1613507
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When I started designing this car and looking at what target market I wanted to focus on I made my mind up that it would be a driver. I am not saying the body and chassis combo cant be a trailer queen!

I built the car for the road and took safety into consideration in every part of the car. Could I of went with thin wall round tubing, 1/2 inch cross member instead of 3/4, 1/2 heims and rodends instead of 3/4, fiberglass floor with a thin piece of wood sandwiched between the glass instead of 1/4 steel???? Sure I could of and it would of saved me THOUSANDS of dollars and I probably would of sold the same number of cars I have to date. BUT I wanted to design a unique street rod for an untapped mopar market that if a husband and wife wanted to jump in and drive across the country they wouldn't be worried about a deer jumping out and going completely threw the car!

The car is fiberglass not steel I understand that so I have made up for the weakness in panels by supporting the structure around it. I am sure John will post pictures of the steel interior and the chassis bracing. I hope to be updating the website soon with new pictures of the latest designs.

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Well, putting unnecessary weight in it with really thick steel sections is a lot different than using heavy duty suspension components. The problem for me is that I look at a 1/4" plate just sitting there and know that most of it isn't doing anything.
Metal that's close to or on the neutral axis is just along for the ride.

You don't have to be Anthony Colin Bruce Chapman, but economy doesn't have to mean cheap.

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Well, putting unnecessary weight in it with really thick steel sections is a lot different than using heavy duty suspension components. The problem for me is that I look at a 1/4" plate just sitting there and know that most of it isn't doing anything.
Metal that's close to or on the neutral axis is just along for the ride.

You don't have to be Anthony Colin Bruce Chapman, but economy doesn't have to mean cheap.

R.




Actually, if the glass body has a steel structure, and the 1/4" plate is tied into that structure, having 1/4" plate at body to frame mounting points will make a tough glass body.

For many body/frame chassis vehicles, the body and frame often separate in crashes. Usually the bolts pull through the frame mount or through the body structure. With a 1/4" 2" x 4" tube frame, and a 1/4" plate sandwiched between the glass, the body/frame would probably stay together, which is usually helpful for the passengers.

Sounds like he put some thought concerning occupant safety into building the car, which is more then a lot of companies have done over the years. And I don't have a dog in this fight. Gene

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Well, putting unnecessary weight in it with really thick steel sections is a lot different than using heavy duty suspension components. The problem for me is that I look at a 1/4" plate just sitting there and know that most of it isn't doing anything.
Metal that's close to or on the neutral axis is just along for the ride.

You don't have to be Anthony Colin Bruce Chapman, but economy doesn't have to mean cheap.

R.


If you have to put weight ( about 80 lbs ) in for safety, the neutral axis zone is where you want to put it - especially if your ass is also sitting in the neutral axis zone. Perfect for mounting seats / seat belts or possibly a roll bar.

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