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Re: E body convertible Quarters... [Re: chargervert] #1610112
04/23/14 11:29 AM
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I did mine that way, but with the way convertibles flex, you would be better off without a weld seam. If the seam cracks, you would be wishing you had spent the extra 1800 dollars.




The seam won't crack if the repair is done correctly, you'll have the $1800 to use elsewhere, and you'll know those factory top moldings will fit perfect on the edge because that part is still factory.


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Re: E body convertible Quarters... [Re: jeff968] #1610113
04/24/14 01:12 AM
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Cool -- convertible Cuda quarters?????

Rather than screw around with rusty parts, if these fit half as good as the first poster says -- then yes, this is a good deal.

To those that have never worked on the super rare convertible Cudas -- this is cheap, even with the shipping both ways. This sounds like a great alternative to repairing rusty rear quarters. As an example of costs for E body gear, when you buy a rusty loose E body convertible mechanism for $1,500 and then put in 100 hours in it to repair the rusty header and loose bushings/pins -- then a mint one for $4,000 is a deal. Most people have no idea what it means to work on a convertible E body and make it mint -- and the comments above show that well.

Like I have heard many times before -- go find workable stuff from someone else if you don't like the price -- I didn't even know these were available. Is anyone else making this sort of thing, and if they are, is it any good? I must be living under a rock.

Re: E body convertible Quarters... [Re: DeMopuar] #1610114
04/24/14 03:22 AM
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The convertible quarters from Ken are great! I do believe AMD is adding some profit into handling Ken's work, thus the listed price. I had Ken do a set for me for a cuda convertible that needed serious metal work. As mentioned, if you can fix your originals, do, but this is a great option for the community. Thanks Ken!

Re: E body convertible Quarters... [Re: jeff968] #1610115
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I did mine that way, but with the way convertibles flex, you would be better off without a weld seam. If the seam cracks, you would be wishing you had spent the extra 1800 dollars.




The seam won't crack if the repair is done correctly, you'll have the $1800 to use elsewhere, and you'll know those factory top moldings will fit perfect on the edge because that part is still factory.




Convertibles have extra stresses in the well and upper rear quarterpanels that hardtops usually do not. If you look at most e body convertibles, you will see stress cracking at the Dutchman panel, where the factory did the lead joints. Convertibles flex a lot more than hardtops do. Just pick one up with a two post lift, and you will see the door gaps open up enough to stick your fingers in the gap. This constant flexing that they do, will cause issues with a welded and filler blended seam over time. Before Ken came out with his modified AMD panels there were very few alternatives. NOS panels were rare as hen's teeth, and extremely expensive to aquire, and clean convertible cutoffs are made of unobtainimum. NOS Challenger convertible quarters sell between 3 to 5 grand each, and Cuda convertible quarterpanels sell between 10 and 15 grand each, thats ten times what Ken gets for his converted panels.


70 Charger R/T SE 472 Hemi 70 Charger R/T convertible 70 Charger R/T V Code Sixpack 69 Charger R/T SE Sunroofcar 68 Charger 383 68 Charger 318 71 Charger R/T 70 Challenger convertible 71 Challenger convertible 71 Cuda 340 09 Challenger R/T Classic
Re: E body convertible Quarters... [Re: scatpacktom] #1610116
04/24/14 11:35 AM
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So it costs 900 bucks to cut the top of the 1/4 off and run it through a bead roller? Costs more to do then the 1/4 costs? C'mon




If you can do them accurately for less than count me in for a pair of Cuda panels. Competition is good for the hobbyist!


70 Charger R/T SE 472 Hemi 70 Charger R/T convertible 70 Charger R/T V Code Sixpack 69 Charger R/T SE Sunroofcar 68 Charger 383 68 Charger 318 71 Charger R/T 70 Challenger convertible 71 Challenger convertible 71 Cuda 340 09 Challenger R/T Classic
Re: E body convertible Quarters... [Re: chargervert] #1610117
04/24/14 05:03 PM
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If you look at most e body convertibles, you will see stress cracking at the Dutchman panel, where the factory did the lead joints. Convertibles flex a lot more than hardtops do. Just pick one up with a two post lift, and you will see the door gaps open up enough to stick your fingers in the gap.




These issues will happen with the $3000 quarter panels as well. Nature of the beast. I would still save the $1,800 and do the seam repair myself. I'm sure the salvaged original upper section will be better fit then the repo and I still have that $1,800. IMHO.


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Re: E body convertible Quarters... [Re: jeff968] #1610118
04/24/14 05:47 PM
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If you look at most e body convertibles, you will see stress cracking at the Dutchman panel, where the factory did the lead joints. Convertibles flex a lot more than hardtops do. Just pick one up with a two post lift, and you will see the door gaps open up enough to stick your fingers in the gap.




These issues will happen with the $3000 quarter panels as well. Nature of the beast. I would still save the $1,800 and do the seam repair myself. I'm sure the salvaged original upper section will be better fit then the repo and I still have that $1,800. IMHO.




They are a lot more likely to crack at a welded and filler blended seam than a one peice stamped panel. I looked at a Challenger convertible the other day, that was painted last year, and I could see the whole weld seam, because the filler had shrunk. The car looked great from fifteen feet away, but when I got right up to it, I could see where the panels had been seamed. That will not happen with a full panel. To me paint jobs cost more than the 1800 dollars that would be saved.


70 Charger R/T SE 472 Hemi 70 Charger R/T convertible 70 Charger R/T V Code Sixpack 69 Charger R/T SE Sunroofcar 68 Charger 383 68 Charger 318 71 Charger R/T 70 Challenger convertible 71 Challenger convertible 71 Cuda 340 09 Challenger R/T Classic
Re: E body convertible Quarters... [Re: chargervert] #1610119
04/24/14 08:27 PM
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I couldn't agree more........

I once paid someone to butt weld flairs on my Pantera, and the guy warped both front fenders.....

Welding on sheet metal sounds great until you do it. Done wrong and it is a total disaster. I was ready to do bodily harm when I went to see what the guy that did this to my car. Very disgusting. So when someone says that they will butt weld something on I don't believe it will be done very well. I bet I can tell it was butt welded.............especially on the bottom side as you cannot get that to look like a die cut piece.

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