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Re: Going racing again.. slicks vs drag radials [Re: 1967dartgt] #1599129
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If you've already got a set of slicks, I'd use them and see how they do. B-Body's transfer weight pretty effectively when properly set up, and generally hook pretty good on a radial. My guess is you'd be faster on a radial, and ultimately that would be your best setup, as long as you have a decently prepped track.


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Re: Going racing again.. slicks vs drag radials [Re: StealthWedge67] #1599130
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slightly off track with the original post question, but I saw a few questions which I thought I would help clarify.

Aftermarket axles are required by NHRA if you are running a spool or run faster than 10.99.

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Welded spider gear rear ends prohibited in all classes. Four-wheel drive permitted per class requirements. Aftermarket axles and axle-retention device mandatory on Top Fuel, Funny Car, Pro Stock, Top Alcohol Dragster, Top Alcohol Funny Car, Comp, Super Comp, Super Gas, Super Street, and 10.99 or quicker E.T. cars; also mandatory on any car (regardless of class or E.T.) with a spool.




Long wheel studs are not a requirement for any class, but the wheel stud MUST extend past the face of the wheel (and washer if used) by at least the diameter of the stud. (1/2" stud by 1/2", 5/8" stud by 5/8", and in the case of some GM 7/16" studs by 7/16").

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Hubcaps must be removed for inspectors, who will check for loose lugs, cracked wheels, worn or oversize lug holes, and condition of spindles, axle nuts, cotter pins, etc. Snap-on hubcaps are prohibited on any class car. The use of “spinner” style wheels or any wheel design that incorporates movable pieces while vehicle is in motion or stationary are prohibited. Each car in competition must be equipped with automotive-type wheels with a minimum 12 inches of diameter unless Class Requirements stipulate otherwise. Motorcycle wheels or lightweight automotive wire wheels must be equipped with .100-inch minimum diameter steel spokes, properly cross-laced to provide maximum strength. All spoke holes in rim and hub must be laced. Omissions to lighten wheels prohibited. The thread engagement on all wheel studs to the lug nut, or lug bolts to wheel hubs, must be equivalent to or greater than the diameter of the stud/bolt. Length of the stud/bolt does not determine permissibility. (Example: A 7/16-inch stud must be thoroughly engaged through the threads in the hex portion of the lug a minimum of 7/16-inch.) Wheel spacer permitted. Spacer to be either hub-centric or lugcentric and must fit with minimal clearance to retain concentricity. The wheel spacer must not reduce the minimum permitted thread engagement below the limits established by fastener diameter. (See example as stated above.) No stacking of wheel spacers allowed.Maximum rim width on any car: 16 inches. No rear wheel discs or covers permitted in any category. Top Fuel and Funny Car rear wheels must meet SFI Spec 15.4. Pro Stock, Top Alcohol Dragster, Top Alcohol Funny Car, and Pro Modified (Comp) must meet a minimum of SFI Spec 15.1



Re: Going racing again.. slicks vs drag radials [Re: Cab_Burge] #1599131
03/28/14 06:16 AM
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How big are your old slicks?




Either 28 x 10.5 or 29.5 x 10.5, I'm leaning towards the 28 x 10.5

I'll look tonight after work




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Re: Going racing again.. slicks vs drag radials [Re: StealthWedge67] #1599132
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My guess is you'd be faster on a radial, and ultimately that would be your best setup, as long as you have a decently prepped track.




Yes, I'm aware that on a radial I'd have a fast mph but would rather have the ET.

I raced the Duster at LV 2 years ago and it would spin the slicks out the hole, track prep is a concern. They were running a bunch of street cars too so I can't blame the track too much.




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Re: Going racing again.. slicks vs drag radials [Re: gdonovan] #1599133
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My guess is you'd be faster on a radial, and ultimately that would be your best setup, as long as you have a decently prepped track.




Yes, I'm aware that on a radial I'd have a fast mph but would rather have the ET.

I raced the Duster at LV 2 years ago and it would spin the slicks out the hole, track prep is a concern. They were running a bunch of street cars too so I can't blame the track too much.



The radial WILL ET and most likely MPH better. Radials don't grow nearly as much as a slick, so the MPH may or may not be better, but it'll definitely ET better on the radial when it hooks.
Like I said before, if the track isn't typically prepped very well when you go, I'd suggest a slick.

Dragula...any decently fast car on radials is wrinkling the sidewall just like a slick...and wears them out accordingly, just like 67dartGT said. No different than a slick.
The day that pic I posted earlier was taken, I made 7 passes to win my first bracket race...went 1.32-1.34 sixty foot every pass running 9.60s.


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Re: Going racing again.. slicks vs drag radials [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1599134
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I would run a slick in your case. It takes a lot to get radials to work right and you don't race near enough to do that. A slick would work better for you, but a radial would be a faster tire both et and mph.


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Re: Going racing again.. slicks vs drag radials [Re: 1967dartgt] #1599135
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I would run a slick in your case. It takes a lot to get radials to work right and you don't race near enough to do that. A slick would work better for you, but a radial would be a faster tire both et and mph.




My car was opposite. It hooked great on the slicks but the radials are more forgiving. I can run 13 to 18 psi and it runs 1.48 to 1.49 60' every time with the radials. I have old crappy springs, cheapest gas shocks you can get and a pinion snubber and it is more consistant with the radials.


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Re: Going racing again.. slicks vs drag radials [Re: dragram440] #1599136
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I would run a slick in your case. It takes a lot to get radials to work right and you don't race near enough to do that. A slick would work better for you, but a radial would be a faster tire both et and mph.




My car was opposite. It hooked great on the slicks but the radials are more forgiving. I can run 13 to 18 psi and it runs 1.48 to 1.49 60' every time with the radials. I have old crappy springs, cheapest gas shocks you can get and a pinion snubber and it is more consistant with the radials.




There are always exceptions but for most people slicks work better then radials on stock suspensions.


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Re: Going racing again.. slicks vs drag radials [Re: 1967dartgt] #1599137
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I would try the slicks you already have. I like that I don't have to deal with tubes and bolting the tire to the rim with radials.
I can drive to the track and race without changing tires.
I like the stability of radials on the top end. It is a bonus that I can drive my car to the track and race without changing tires.

Re: Going racing again.. slicks vs drag radials [Re: 1967dartgt] #1599138
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Just curios for the fellas that run a slick then make the switch to a radial tire do uall make any type of chassis adjustment or do uall just bolt them on and go?........Thax.

Re: Going racing again.. slicks vs drag radials [Re: DodgeCharger] #1599139
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I would try the slicks you already have.




I'm leaning that way since a few people have chimed in that the ago of the slicks are most likely a non-issue.

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I like that I don't have to deal with tubes and bolting the tire to the rim with radials.





That was a positive for the radials if I go that route but something I'm already use to doing.

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I can drive to the track and race without changing tires.




Four hour round trip for me so on the trailer it goes. Breakage happens too.




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Re: Going racing again.. slicks vs drag radials [Re: racerx] #1599140
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Just curios for the fellas that run a slick then make the switch to a radial tire do uall make any type of chassis adjustment or do uall just bolt them on and go?........Thax.




Mine is a street car only running 10's but I had M/T bias slicks and then Hoosier QTP bias tires and now I use the Hoosier radial slick which I like best and I never made any changes but I just use SS springs and the long MP rear shocks. Ron

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