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air filter on a dominator #1598527
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the fresh motor is going in the car soon and this time through i'm going to put an air cleaner on it. what do you guys with dominators use? is it worth it to use the k&n filter top. i have a six pack scoop that is not sealed to the hood. once the motor is in i will be able to measure the clearance.

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Re: air filter on a dominator [Re: w2stroker] #1598528
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If your looking I have a nice 2" drop base for a dominator with a 4" k&n and a filter top. basically brand new. it didnt really fit under my hood.


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Re: air filter on a dominator [Re: w2stroker] #1598529
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You dont want the top... it tends to break up the
flow path.. MOST of the air is coming in via the outer
ring filter and then you have the air coming in from
the top and they crash into each other... I have a
top because it came with the filter assm I wanted but
I am closing the top off... I'll use thin plastic
to cover it and glue it in place over the top

Re: air filter on a dominator [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1598530
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I just run a regular 14x3", 3/4" RAISED base, standard top, not the filter style. Car runs the same with it on or off.


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Re: air filter on a dominator [Re: w2stroker] #1598531
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I will be using a dom for the first time this year on my small block and this is what I found from moroso. 1 3/4x16" dropbase. had to remove 1" from indy carb pad to get it to fit under a 6 pack hood with a 4" element.

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Re: air filter on a dominator [Re: mopar dave] #1598532
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here's another. had to paint the lid because it had some damage.

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Re: air filter on a dominator [Re: mopar dave] #1598533
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I use the Uni filters and have been very happy with them. Also used the K&N Flow Control filters and been very happy with them as well.


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Re: air filter on a dominator [Re: w2stroker] #1598534
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I've dyno tested several different motors using the K&N Extreme filter tops, they both, one 4150 and a 4500 carb. motor, lost 8 HP I ended up trying the 4500 top at the races on a Duster with a close fitting(to the lid) six pak scoop and the stupid car picked up .03 ET and .4 MPH that was back to back on a A,B,A tests, twice on two different days I run one now on all my cars


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Re: air filter on a dominator [Re: Cab_Burge] #1598535
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I run Summits K&N type on my 65 with Dominator.Comes with the cleaner and filter.Its cheaper that just a K&N filter.Been on 14 years now.Mine is 6 inch tall.I just clean and oil it.Rocky


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This is the K&N filter I was referring to.Not one with a gauze filter top



And the Uni Filter



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Re: air filter on a dominator [Re: Al_Alguire] #1598537
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14 x 6 K&N with custom base and X-Treme top.
Have never ran the car without it or a different lid for that matter.

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Without the filter

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I use this. Fits under my stock hood with 6 pak scoop, M1, 2" Moroso adapter spacer and 4500 safety plate.

Re: air filter on a dominator [Re: Cab_Burge] #1598540
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I've dyno tested several different motors using the K&N Extreme filter tops, they both, one 4150 and a 4500 carb. motor, lost 8 HP I ended up trying the 4500 top at the races on a Duster with a close fitting(to the lid) six pak scoop and the stupid car picked up .03 ET and .4 MPH that was back to back on a A,B,A tests, twice on two different days I run one now on all my cars




Did you re-jet to get the max with each... I know
those tops mess up the flow.. I flowed them back at
work on the filter flow bench

Re: air filter on a dominator [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1598541
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I did not change the jets, I switch the tops only That was the case on the dyno and at the track I remove the rasied bevel metal stock tops and switch to the K&N extreme tops, no other changes

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Re: air filter on a dominator [Re: Cab_Burge] #1598542
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thanks for all the input! i will have my motor back in the car next week and be able to measure for clearence. then off to vegas for mats.

Re: air filter on a dominator [Re: Cab_Burge] #1598543
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Re: air filter on a dominator [Re: sixpackgut] #1598544
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I like that top Ray... is that what you run all the time..
do you have the engine bay sealed off with that...
I'm trying to figure out how to seal mine off with a
cowl and hinged hood

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Not sealed. Its just there so someone (me) doesnt drop a bolt in the carb


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Re: air filter on a dominator [Re: sixpackgut] #1598546
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Ray, you sneaking over to the dark side of power adders?

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Ray, you sneaking over to the dark side of power adders?




That is why i gave up on the big blocks.


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Re: air filter on a dominator [Re: sixpackgut] #1598548
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Ray, you sneaking over to the dark side of power adders?




That is why i gave up on the big blocks.






Come on now..............imagine how fast you`d be with a big block AND a power adder...........


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Ray, you sneaking over to the dark side of power adders?




That is why i gave up on the big blocks.






Come on now..............imagine how fast you`d be with a big block AND a power adder...........




I agree but i think it is easier with the new hemi having cam and crank sensors.


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What do those have to do w/my point?


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I'v been told the dropbase with the bubble top lid helps turn the air and make it enter the carb properly. i'v talked with the guys at R2C, they make some nice filters and cleaners for circle track. last time I spoke with them they said they had a dominator air clear in the works and should be available buy this spring. they also mention the filter lids as being the worst thing for proper flow.

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I'v been told the dropbase with the bubble top lid helps turn the air and make it enter the carb properly. i'v talked with the guys at R2C, they make some nice filters and cleaners for circle track. last time I spoke with them they said they had a dominator air clear in the works and should be available buy this spring. they also mention the filter lids as being the worst thing for proper flow.




A nice radiused lid will work good... I have 1 buddy
that the filter lid works for... BUT he stacks 2 5"
elements on each other so it has plenty of space to
turn the air before the lid has any effect.. but he
is the only guy that I know that it works for

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So then guys, what is the best semi-low profile foreward facing scoop for our cars that will be legal on the street................


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What do those have to do w/my point?




power adder such as turbo would be easier with the new hemi than a BB. plus I believe you can get away with a stock block is the reason for my switch. plus its just something different.


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Makes sense...................Guess I`m old skool cos I`ll always be n/a and carbed..............


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