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Re: Unbelievable Survivor Found- Not Mopar
[Re: JDMopar]
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11/30/08 08:34 PM
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Apparently the mods deleted the rest of the posts?
   I made a positive reply about the car and *POOF* it's gone! 
So did I but it was in the middle of a bunch of  So no loss, I'm glad it got cleaned up... 
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Re: Unbelievable Survivor Found- Not Mopar
[Re: 1_WILD_RT]
#158993
11/30/08 08:42 PM
11/30/08 08:42 PM
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Apparently the mods deleted the rest of the posts?
I made a positive reply about the car and *POOF* it's gone!
So did I but it was in the middle of a bunch of So no loss, I'm glad it got cleaned up...
Same here. So I'm going to repeat myself.
Cool find. Probably my favorite Camero.
72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/motormangj@gmail.com
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Re: Unbelievable Survivor Found- Not Mopar
[Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY]
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11/30/08 09:04 PM
11/30/08 09:04 PM
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They are still out there....
That Z28 is just awesome. How do you resist driving such a cool car?
So Mike- what would YOU do with this car, or what do you think should/would/could be done?
Should the car be turned over and lubed etc so it COULD be started and ran again down the road, or should it be a "hands off" car as far as a time capsule, or?
I know it's going to be up to the owner in the end, but I'm interested in hearing from "other" survivor car owners what they think should/would/could be done with this Camaro.
It's a time capsule that will only be totally original ONCE, so I guess alot of thought has to go into anything before commencing....
I own a low mile,(2,800) Challenger. My car has the original brakes, exhaust, shocks, front end, etc. Being an ex drag car, the motor had been out and modified. All of the original components were there though. Alternator, starter, distributor, etc. were all there and none of the wiring was disturbed. But the fuel system was totally contaminated and needed to be replaced. The motor compartment unfortunately needed to be "restored".
The glass and interior on my car are the best I have ever seen and might even be better than that Camaro. But that car(Z28), is really special as it is a true Survivor in every respect. And unlike cars like the cornfield hemicuda(no disrespect-great car-BTW), it was preserved to a higher degree.
I have driven my car a total of 5 miles in the entire time of ownership. It just doesn't make sense to drive a car like this. Whatever originality will be lost if that happens. It has a perfect inspection sticker that expired 35 years ago. I would imagine it wouldn't last long if it was exposed to the sun,etc. Same for the interior. And if you ran the car alot, the original exhaust would suffer.
My feeling is that cars like this should be cleaned up and left as-is.
MB
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Re: Unbelievable Survivor Found- Not Mopar
[Re: ThermoQuad]
#158999
11/30/08 09:32 PM
11/30/08 09:32 PM
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I don't want to get hung up in the coming storm but that engine compartment does look pretty bad for only 1100 miles of use and then storage in a climate controlled area.
It is a really nice car though, no two ways about it.
I see you have become an expert on what an unrestored engine compartment is supposed to look like after sitting in a garage for so many years...It's comments like this that make me never want to post anything let alone share something significantly cool and truly rare... 
(Sigh) Oh to be able to make a comment, just a simple comment, and not have it misinterpreted by every "expert" on this board. I just think that the water pump on an engine with 1100 miles should still have engine paint on it, not 100% rust, and the block should look fairly fresh, not greasy, oily, and discolored. I don't know, maybe the first 1100 miles were hard miles, hell, I don't know. What I do know is the engine in my '72 W200 after 80,000 miles looks better.
"We live in a time when intelligent people are being silenced so that stupid people won't be offended".
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Re: Unbelievable Survivor Found- Not Mopar
[Re: HPMike]
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11/30/08 09:36 PM
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Up until a few months ago I was caretaker for a 299 mile pacecar mustang. There really is nothing you can do with cars like this except incur the expense of trailering them from one show to the next. That or just look at them. Cool someone scored the z but now what?
I can't afford this.
mark
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Re: Unbelievable Survivor Found- Not Mopar
[Re: HPMike]
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11/30/08 10:02 PM
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Re: Unbelievable Survivor Found- Not Mopar
[Re: HPMike]
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11/30/08 10:54 PM
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I'm not sure a more "original" car could be found from 1970. It's an impressive piece.
In my opinion a car like that almost looses it's "car" status, and becomes "art".
It's fascinating.
CrAzYMoPaRGuY
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Re: Unbelievable Survivor Found- Not Mopar
[Re: HPMike]
#159006
11/30/08 11:05 PM
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Awsome car! From what I've seen of GM survivor cars, the quality control was even more lacking than Mopar at that time. Makes OE restorations of these cars very difficult, takes a true artist. BTW, as Dave W stated, interesting how a thread like that could go that long without negative comments.  Doug
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