|
Re: Have '00 Dodge Ram 2500 V10 auto, needs trans...
[Re: mrrandyj]
#1589384
03/22/14 12:35 AM
03/22/14 12:35 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,945
Freeport IL USA
poorboy
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,945
Freeport IL USA
|
OK, So I looked at Chrgrcuda's profile, his thoughts about replacing everything make sense, once you see he is an airplane mechanic. Big differences between working on a car, and working on a plane. I suspect there is little opportunity for "warranty" service on an airplane engine.
The automotive industry is held to a standard of being weary of replacing parts unnecessarily. A $40 part might not break the bank, but it might be very wasteful if that $40 part will not cause a problem over the life expectancy of the overhaul service. In the automotive industry, the standard set by law, is to replace only defective parts, and reuse parts that are still serviceable. Law suits have been filed and large settlements paid out by auto repair shops that have replaced parts that were not proven to be faulty.
To that point, there is also a huge difference in the quality of replacement parts between the two industries. Air craft quality standards are much higher then automotive standards. To assume a new replacement automotive part is going to be as good or a better quality part then what may have been in service, is expecting a lot these days. That makes the concept of replacing something "just because you're in there" somewhat questionable in the automotive industry.
This concept leads to a few quick questions for Mr Chrgrcuda. If you inspect the brakes on your car, do you always replace them "while you're in there" even if they are still good? Do you replace your tires every time to rotate them? My point is, sometimes replacing every part is not required if the part shows no sign of wear or age.
If you feel the need to replace everything you touch, go for it, but do not judge everyone else by the industry standard in which you work. I promise most of the world functions on a lot lower standard of nearly everything required of the airline industry. Frankly, I'm OK with that. I don't fly very often, but I like the idea that the last guy that worked on the plane I'm going to ride in, replace everything when he repaired something.
That said, the last time I checked, my car doesn't do well leaving the ground, even momentarily, without support (hoist or jack), without receiving severe trauma. I do not need to hold it to aircraft standards, I don't need to replace every part, nut, or bolt, every time I do a major overhaul. I live in the real automotive world, if the parts are not defective, I'm going to reuse them. Gene
|
|
|
Re: Have '00 Dodge Ram 2500 V10 auto, needs trans...
[Re: poorboy]
#1589385
03/22/14 02:54 AM
03/22/14 02:54 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 941
Texas, USA
ChrgrCuda
super stock
|
super stock
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 941
Texas, USA
|
Mr. Poorboy:
Good question and your points are valid regarding the two industries. However, pulling the wheel and inspecting brake shoes (especially rotors) is much less labor intensive when compared to pulling a transmission (especially in a 3/4 ton truck, 4x4, etc). I would not think one would simply pull a transmission out and disassemble for a routine inspection (unless a racecar), hence changing a $40.00 component "while you're in there."
68 Cuda Notchback [Email]10.86@120[/Email]
69 Charger R/T 440/505
2009 Challenger SRT8
|
|
|
Re: Have '00 Dodge Ram 2500 V10 auto, needs trans...
[Re: dilvoy]
#1589387
03/22/14 08:24 AM
03/22/14 08:24 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 21,192
in a cattle trailer down by th...
Guitar Jones
Paddle faster! I hear banjo music!
|
Paddle faster! I hear banjo music!
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 21,192
in a cattle trailer down by th...
|
Quote:
For the guys that don't want to change the low reverse band. I have Installed some B&M kits in some old 727's and always went and bought low reverse bands for the job, because the friction lining seemed to be made of some sort of paper and I was worried about damaging it when cleaning it. How do you clean it well without damaging it?
The only thing that will damage it is water. Mineral spirits, gasoline, diesel fuel, lacquer thinner nothing harms it but water.
"Come get your wife"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Front and rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
|
|
|
Re: Have '00 Dodge Ram 2500 V10 auto, needs trans...
[Re: ChrgrCuda]
#1589388
03/22/14 08:28 AM
03/22/14 08:28 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 21,192
in a cattle trailer down by th...
Guitar Jones
Paddle faster! I hear banjo music!
|
Paddle faster! I hear banjo music!
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 21,192
in a cattle trailer down by th...
|
Quote:
Nice try. I'll give you an "E" for effort. Sugar coat this turd however you like, however the customer is still inconvenienced by having to bring the vehicle back in AGAIN regardless if they have to pay or not. However I thank you for proving my point as to why Chrysler has pretty much the worst reputation in the industry when it comes to service. You just keep on replacing what is ABSOLUTELY is necessary. Another great reason as to why Chrysler has such a [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] resale value as customers have experienced just what you described.
EVERY MANUFACTURER OPERATES THE SAME WAY not just Chrysler. Your outrage is misplaced.
"Come get your wife"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Front and rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
|
|
|
Re: Have '00 Dodge Ram 2500 V10 auto, needs trans...
[Re: Guitar Jones]
#1589389
03/23/14 06:18 PM
03/23/14 06:18 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 13,234
aZLiViN
J_BODY
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 13,234
aZLiViN
|
I used the original rear band in the 47RE I built for my 01 80K+ miles ago...(reason was that the hp/torque of my Cummins had been raised well beyond what the stock trans was designed to handle). Believe that core had 60k on it when I got it. I also reused the bearings, and all the planetary gears. Used the same pump, and did replace the input shaft and hub as the splines had some play in them, and of course, a new triple lock torque converter. Like a few others here.... I've been around the block a few times on these transmissions. You get to know what to look for, what gets changed, and what can be used again. Biggest reason for failure rate of those old trannys imho is the gawd awful amount of overlap they were programmed with from the factory..... and it was always funny how many of the clutch pack clearances were wrong. BTW a prolonged 1-2 shift I'd be looking pretty hard at the front band adjustment, and servo. Fwiw... I service my trans every 30k, my truck is a tool to pull my race trailer and boat.... and it does it well.
|
|
|
|
|
Absolutely true. I was a trans tech at a Dodge dealer for over 20 years. I've literally rebuilt thousands of these things and can count on the fingers of one hand the times a rear band needed to be replaced. 
