Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: WadeMetzinger]
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06/20/14 08:47 AM
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WadeMetzinger- Dude that looks so friggin sweet!!! Is it everything you were hoping for?
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: 1320Dart]
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06/20/14 08:55 AM
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WadeMetzinger- Dude that looks so friggin sweet!!!
Is it everything you were hoping for?
Yes sir it is!
Hope to build it this winter. I'd like to put a st of Edelbrock Victor heads on it. It'll probably never see 800hp and last me a forever.
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
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06/20/14 09:32 AM
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Just thought of another thing. The bottom bolts on the bell housing are not drilled the correct size for a stock tranny. I recall they are 3/8 but you need to drill them out for 7/16.
I didn't know they could do a dipstick hole. When I got mine that was not an option.
Yeah I opted for a tapped dip stick hole. I should say I asked for one. My Bell Housing is all the ATI conversion stuff to run a Glide
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
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06/20/14 10:20 AM
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
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06/20/14 10:54 AM
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Could I hear a little bit more of the specifics of the block?
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
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06/20/14 10:57 AM
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Just thought of another thing. The bottom bolts on the bell housing are not drilled the correct size for a stock tranny. I recall they are 3/8 but you need to drill them out for 7/16.
I didn't know they could do a dipstick hole. When I got mine that was not an option.
Thanks BigCube! I'm also running a glide with a J&W ultra-bell but I will check that.
I didn't realize that there would be so many places to access the oil passages. On my mega block I had 5 lines utilizing the 2 ports in the back by the bell housing flange. 2 lines for the Indy heads, oil pressure, low oil pressure sending unit and the oil line to the oil accumulator.
Does anyone know which port on the side of the block would be the best to use for the oil accumulator? I use it to pressurize before starting and when going down track. Don't want it to just dump it into the pan, but maybe it doesn't matter as they are all pressurized?
Please pass along any other tips you have.
I noticed 2 larger holes with heli coils in the bell flange, not sure what they are for. They look to be 7/16 or 1/2.
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: WadeMetzinger]
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06/20/14 11:23 AM
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Just thought I'd post my KB ordering experience since I've heard rumors that it takes 6 to 9 months to get one. In late Nov I called and requested a KB block order form, filed it out and sent it in and on Dec 3 Ken Black called me and we discussed my order and he took the 1st payment (which is half of the cost of the block, including shipping).
He told me they were running about 12 week from ordering to shipping, which was fine with me since I didn't need it to start out the season.
So in review, the 6-9 months was the correct number.
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
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06/20/14 02:10 PM
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Just thought of another thing. The bottom bolts on the bell housing are not drilled the correct size for a stock tranny. I recall they are 3/8 but you need to drill them out for 7/16.
I didn't know they could do a dipstick hole. When I got mine that was not an option.
I ordered mine with the dip stick hole drilled. It is an option to check on the order sheet. I also ordered my lower two transmission holes drilled for a 727, see attached marked in green. The other labels are what KB sent me when I discussed it with him.
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
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06/20/14 02:44 PM
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Looks good! Be prepared to grind those push rod holes.
Before I ordered mine, I asked Ken about push rod clearance. I couldn't get a good answer other than all that extra material needed for a hemi head is still there on the 440 blocks. So I am planning on machining the pushrod holes on my Bridgeport milling machine. i.e. I am ready to remove a bunch of aluminum (440-1 heads).
I will try and document it and send it to KB when I am done so they could make that option for 440-1 heads... if he wants to make a CNC program while the blocks are being machined.
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience
[Re: 440Jim]
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06/20/14 03:02 PM
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I talked to Ken a few minutes ago, the last call was on 6/3 and he thought the recast low deck might be ready to pick up from the foundry that week. Today he said he hasn't picked it up from the foundry yet, but it should be ready... I asked him to check and get it into machining as soon as possible, ordered on... etc. He said when he gets it from the foundry it will be machined right away.
Wade, can you check the head studs you got for the Indy heads? I had lots of discussion and exchange of info with KB. Use this attached pic for reference and let me know the dimensions you got. The pic is not a KB stud, just for visual reference. Thanks, Jim
Jim, I'll check but it will be next week. The studs were the only thing Ken didn't have in stock but he ordered them this week and they are being sent directly to me from ARP. So once I get them I'll provide measurements.
I was thinking they were special, meaning they were 1/2" in the block and then necked down to 7/16 at the deck for the 440-1 heads, I didn't notice what size they were when looking at it last night.
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