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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: RT540] #1583601
06/06/14 07:36 AM
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some companies needs a penalty for not keeping their delivery time, and that can only be money involved, lets say that they should not promize better that 16 weeks, and for each week over, the prize will drop 5% from the total prize.
If you pay 50% in advance, you Will either get a block! or you will be compensated with a cheaper product.

A written contract by both parties.
We have customers that demand this type of contracts for us.




I'm a CNC machinist/programmer. There is a fairly new law that the government implemented on manufacturing. If you do any manufacturing jobs for the government and you don't complete the job by the contracted date. you will not get paid. Period.
I wish that went for all manufacturing for everyone.


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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: WadeMetzinger] #1583602
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Just spoke to ken, the sleeves have been installed. Tomorrow it will be final honed and final inspection and then shipped tomorrow or Monday!




That's great to hear!!


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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: 1320Dart] #1583603
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A written contract by both parties.
We have customers that demand this type of contracts for us.




I'm a CNC machinist/programmer. There is a fairly new law that the government implemented on manufacturing. If you do any manufacturing jobs for the government and you don't complete the job by the contracted date. you will not get paid. Period.
I wish that went for all manufacturing for everyone.




However since we can't have dozen page lawyer reviewed/approved "what isn't mentioned, is included" contracts, and then nothing would happen, we could to help the shops out also have the understanding, that when they rush/deliver a block, they get paid in 7? days, or their price goes up 5%? a week, its got to be fair to both sides, just sayin.


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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: jcc] #1583604
06/06/14 11:04 AM
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A written contract by both parties.
We have customers that demand this type of contracts for us.




I'm a CNC machinist/programmer. There is a fairly new law that the government implemented on manufacturing. If you do any manufacturing jobs for the government and you don't complete the job by the contracted date. you will not get paid. Period.
I wish that went for all manufacturing for everyone.




However since we can't have dozen page lawyer reviewed/approved "what isn't mentioned, is included" contracts, and then nothing would happen, we could to help the shops out also have the understanding, that when they rush/deliver a block, they get paid in 7? days, or their price goes up 5%? a week, its got to be fair to both sides, just sayin.




I do agree.


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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: 440Jim] #1583605
06/12/14 08:37 AM
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When I called Ken to ask him about my block, I heard about yours. Do you have any new updates?


As I posted yesterday, that is my current status. He didn't call me back yesterday with the foundary pick up date like he said on the phone. I was ready to assemble my engine back in April when my custom pistons arrived. And those were weeks late also. When I ordered my block on Jan 17, 13 weeks would have been April 17.




440Jim-
Any updates on your block yet?
I talked with him last night. He couldn't even find my order now!


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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: jcc] #1583606
06/19/14 01:32 PM
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It's here! More pictures when I get home, sent dad to pick it up for me while I was at work today.

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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: WadeMetzinger] #1583607
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: WadeMetzinger] #1583608
06/19/14 01:55 PM
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It's here! More pictures when I get home, sent dad to pick it up for me while I was at work today.




You lucky dog!!!!
Right on!!


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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: 1320Dart] #1583609
06/19/14 04:58 PM
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Right on schedule.. 6-9 months.
Dec. 3rd to June 19th..


But it will be a nice piece.




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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: Chris'sBarracuda] #1583610
06/19/14 07:11 PM
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Three weeks ago I was told 2 more weeks. so I called last Wednesday (the 11th) and was told that my block was shipping the next day! Then I hear him say oops...I cant find any of your paperwork. let me call you right back. No call...So I call the next day. I was told it would be at least 2 more weeks

I'm sure everyone is tired of hearing about my problem/experience, and I'm sorry.
I made my order in January. I had a 8 week window to get my block and get it put together and in my car. Then a weekend of testing. Tomorrow the 20th and Saturday the 21st was when I was to be on the track racing. I've lost $4,500 to $5,000 between what I had to return to sponsors and sponsors that I had to cancel with because of not being able to race my car. Not to mention my reputation for canceling business deals. A couple of them were pissed!
Hopefully people will read and learn something from ALL of us on here, and listen to whats being said. Not just at Ken, but at any of the part manufacturers.

It's almost to the point of being comical. It honestly feels like a bad dream.

Someone else on here said that Ken is a member on here and reads the posts periodically. I wonder if he knows that there is a post just about him and his company? I wonder if he knows how many people have commented, good and bad? Maybe he doesn't care. It is what it is...


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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: 1320Dart] #1583611
06/19/14 08:26 PM
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Three weeks ago I was told 2 more weeks. so I called last Wednesday (the 11th) and was told that my block was shipping the next day! Then I hear him say oops...I cant find any of your paperwork. let me call you right back. No call...So I call the next day. I was told it would be at least 2 more weeks

I'm sure everyone is tired of hearing about my problem/experience, and I'm sorry.
I made my order in January. I had a 8 week window to get my block and get it put together and in my car. Then a weekend of testing. Tomorrow the 20th and Saturday the 21st was when I was to be on the track racing. I've lost $4,500 to $5,000 between what I had to return to sponsors and sponsors that I had to cancel with because of not being able to race my car. Not to mention my reputation for canceling business deals. A couple of them were pissed!
Hopefully people will read and learn something from ALL of us on here, and listen to whats being said. Not just at Ken, but at any of the part manufacturers.

It's almost to the point of being comical. It honestly feels like a bad dream.

Someone else on here said that Ken is a member on here and reads the posts periodically. I wonder if he knows that there is a post just about him and his company? I wonder if he knows how many people have commented, good and bad? Maybe he doesn't care. It is what it is...



I would hope Ken has been reading this thread from the beginning. some have thrown his company under the bus, some have defended his dealings.I think KB is doing what they can for each and every customer that places an order.I have never heard one person say they were "Burned" by KB, this says a lot in my book!

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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: boatracer572] #1583612
06/20/14 05:51 AM
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Three weeks ago I was told 2 more weeks. so I called last Wednesday (the 11th) and was told that my block was shipping the next day! Then I hear him say oops...I cant find any of your paperwork. let me call you right back. No call...So I call the next day. I was told it would be at least 2 more weeks

I'm sure everyone is tired of hearing about my problem/experience, and I'm sorry.
I made my order in January. I had a 8 week window to get my block and get it put together and in my car. Then a weekend of testing. Tomorrow the 20th and Saturday the 21st was when I was to be on the track racing. I've lost $4,500 to $5,000 between what I had to return to sponsors and sponsors that I had to cancel with because of not being able to race my car. Not to mention my reputation for canceling business deals. A couple of them were pissed!
Hopefully people will read and learn something from ALL of us on here, and listen to whats being said. Not just at Ken, but at any of the part manufacturers.

It's almost to the point of being comical. It honestly feels like a bad dream.

Someone else on here said that Ken is a member on here and reads the posts periodically. I wonder if he knows that there is a post just about him and his company? I wonder if he knows how many people have commented, good and bad? Maybe he doesn't care. It is what it is...



I would hope Ken has been reading this thread from the beginning. some have thrown his company under the bus, some have defended his dealings.I think KB is doing what they can for each and every customer that places an order.I have never heard one person say they were "Burned" by KB, this says a lot in my book!




Please don't take anything I've said, as me throwing Ken under the bus. He has always been nice to me on the phone. All I'm doing is giving my experiences with ordering my KB block(per the subject of the post).
I'm in manufacturing. So I do feel a bit burned over this deal so far. I was given a 12 week due date. I had figured 13 or 14 from experience in manufacturing. I relied on that and lost a fair chunk of money and worst of all my racing season. So if he told me 12 weeks but really meant 26 weeks, he should say so. People wouldn't be so frustrated. Look at it this way...If he quoted 26 weeks and got it done in 12 weeks, people would think he's just that much more awesome!


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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: 1320Dart] #1583613
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: WadeMetzinger] #1583614
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Re: Keith Black Aluminum block ordering experience [Re: WadeMetzinger] #1583618
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