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Re: Hearing this more and more.... [Re: justinp61] #1565110
01/21/14 07:00 AM
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one of my daily drivers is a 2005 CTS-V Caddy.
super charged with heads, cam and a ton of suspension mods. It made 580 RWHP and handles the corners like a slot car. I bought it since it was a steal. Only problems were it ate a motor at 9,000 miles when detonation collapsed the cast pistons( GM only puts forged in Corvettes),a trans at 15,000 and rear( known to be junk at assembly time) at 6,000 miles.
It does go like the wind


home of the
Sox and Martin Hemi Duster


Re: Hearing this more and more.... [Re: justinp61] #1565111
01/21/14 01:25 PM
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You guys kill me. If everyone was putting a hemi in everything I'll bet everyone would be happy. If we had the factory support like the LS we would be having this conversation.
Hell I'll bet that if we had a quarter of the support the LS has the hemi would be king.
The LS is a great engine that's why mopar build the hemi similar to it. Take the heads of and have a look.
The LS program is basically idiot proof. Go fast with not too much thinking.
Matt




Look at all the parts they have available. We will never have this kind of support for anything Mopar. All Ma is interested in is selling new cars.





Can`t stand GM PERIOD...............Everyone`s got one except for a few and myself and just because we don`t have all of the support you speak of doesn`t mean we need to be a trader and sell out. At the track I lay down decent numbers and make guys scratch their heads(mostly gm clucks)and ask me how much "spray" I`m using.........too funny. Mopar or no car PERIOD..............


72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
Re: Hearing this more and more.... [Re: Thumperdart] #1565112
01/21/14 02:01 PM
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I remember being impressed with the dyno sheets from an LS7 way back in 2006-7. Flat tq curve, wide hp band and it revved up quick! New technology in the hard parts (cam, heads, etc.) is cool and usually finds it way over to our applications that need updates from when they were originally designed (aka 1950's).

That said I'd bet you could build a pretty comparable 400 based stroker with some careful shopping utilizing lots of shade tree mechanics.

Most of the relatively cheap LS engines that make good power seem to have a power adder of some sort. Personally I think anything that helps continue the hobby is good. With everything being three times the price of ten years ago (not counting Chinese knock off parts) it's not surprising that guys are going mad max at the local salvage yard.

Re: Hearing this more and more.... [Re: 4406bbl] #1565113
01/21/14 02:07 PM
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Some of you guys need to go price this stuff.
An ls 7 is about 13000 for just the engine, an
Ls3 or 6.2 is about 9000, just the engine.
Chrysler sells the 6.1 for 9000 with everything
you need to make it run except the fuel pump.
I think you can buy just the 6.1 for around 7500.
Mopar looks cheaper to me if you start with
new stuff.




There are no more factory 6.1 being produced. You will need to purchase the 6.4 which in my opinion is a better block.
This year the heavy duty rams have the 6.4. There should be cores available soon.
Matt

Re: Hearing this more and more.... [Re: MattW] #1565114
01/26/14 01:36 PM
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Good thread,

I wonder if it's really more just the cost, the relative ease of tuning (admit it laptop tuning on the chassis dyno is much easier) or what....

I'm vexed because I have an 06 LS2 powered Trailblazer SS and it's hard not to like. I actually toyed with building a 4.125 stroke 427 iron block with trick flow heads for it....practically a turn key 550 horse daily driver with gobs of trailer pulling torque,

I guess I can justify it to myself only because I'd use it to pull my Mopars to the track, lol. Ironically with just a tune and a few bolt one it's faster than the 67 440 GTX I had in high school


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World's Quickest Diahatsu Rocky (??) 414" Stroker Small block Mopar Powered. 10.84 @ 123...and gettin' quicker!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWzLma3YGI

In Car:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXcf95e6v0
Re: Hearing this more and more.... [Re: Streetwize] #1565115
01/27/14 06:52 AM
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Streetwize:
Good thread,

I wonder if it's really more just the cost, the relative ease of tuning (admit it laptop tuning on the chassis dyno is much easier) or what....

I'm vexed because I have an 06 LS2 powered Trailblazer SS and it's hard not to like. I actually toyed with building a 4.125 stroke 427 iron block with trick flow heads for it....practically a turn key 550 horse daily driver with gobs of trailer pulling torque,

I guess I can justify it to myself only because I'd use it to pull my Mopars to the track, lol. Ironically with just a tune and a few bolt ons it's faster than the 67 440 GTX I had in high school




Add that your sporty Trailblazer SS weighs around 4800+lbs race weight, roughly around 1000lbs more than your 1967 GTX did.


Re: Hearing this more and more.... [Re: topbrent] #1565116
01/27/14 12:39 PM
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3500 HP blown alcohol 426 Hemi

any questions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc6D1I224a8


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