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Re: Carter AFB's [Re: 62maxwgn] #1561368 01/11/14 03:01 PM 01/11/14 03:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,129 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,129 Niles , Ohio	IIRc none of my AFBs that are all 60s have the weighted door.I think that at least 1 if not 2 are from my 60 Dodge D500 long ram motor.The rest are from BBs I removed from factory intakes.Been a long time since Ive looked at them.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: Carter AFB's [Re: TJP] #1561369 01/11/14 03:04 PM 01/11/14 03:04 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,688 Fresno, CA Jim_Lusk I Live Here
Jim_Lusk I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,688 Fresno, CA	Quote: Quote: Learn something every day on Moparts. All the AFB's I have worked on over the years had the weighted air valve and I thought all AFB's had it. Ron I'm not doubting what is being said here but without the air valve I would think there would be a substantial bog when the secondary's were winged open as there was no secondary pump shot In my experience with the AFBs without the secondary air valve there was no bog. Either there was enough engine to keep air flowing OR the carb was small enough by comparison. BUT, put one of those on a 273 and there was a bog...

Re: Carter AFB's [Re: TJP] #1561370 01/11/14 09:53 PM 01/11/14 09:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Quote: Quote: Learn something every day on Moparts. All the AFB's I have worked on over the years had the weighted air valve and I thought all AFB's had it. Ron I'm not doubting what is being said here but without the air valve I would think there would be a substantial bog when the secondary's were winged open as there was no secondary pump shot I agree as pretty much every four barrel carb I have ever worked with that had mechanical secondaries either have an air valve on the secondaries or is a double pumper. Ron

Re: Carter AFB's [Re: 383man] #1561371 01/12/14 01:04 AM 01/12/14 01:04 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA 62maxwgn master
62maxwgn master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA	I think you will find that almost every carb from 66 back that was installed on a non performance application such as full size C bodies and others did not have a secondary air valve.

Re: Carter AFB's [Re: 62maxwgn] #1561372 01/12/14 11:00 AM 01/12/14 11:00 AM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours Supercuda About to go away
Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Quote: I think you will find that almost every carb from 66 back that was installed on a non performance application such as full size C bodies and others did not have a secondary air valve. Hmm, the 413 I had my AFB on was stamped HP and it had no weighted air valve. They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: Carter AFB's [Re: Supercuda] #1561373 01/12/14 04:08 PM 01/12/14 04:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,129 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,129 Niles , Ohio	My 60 D500 wasnt a low po motor either.It was a dual quad long ram.No weightys on them.I had a pic from a 60 mag that showed the carbs without them either.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: Carter AFB's [Re: 383man] #1561374 01/12/14 07:01 PM 01/12/14 07:01 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,842 Ohio J john55 master
john55 master J Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,842 Ohio	Quote: Learn something every day on Moparts. All the AFB's I have worked on over the years had the weighted air valve and I thought all AFB's had it. Ron The Plymouth Win You Over Beat Goes On

Re: Carter AFB's [Re: john55] #1561375 01/12/14 08:49 PM 01/12/14 08:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA 62maxwgn master
62maxwgn master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA	Quote: Quote: Learn something every day on Moparts. All the AFB's I have worked on over the years had the weighted air valve and I thought all AFB's had it. Ron You made me go out in the cold to disagree,two 65 383's and a 64 413 ! 7995381-P1120625.JPG (105 downloads)

Re: Carter AFB's [Re: Supercuda] #1561376 01/12/14 08:54 PM 01/12/14 08:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA 62maxwgn master
62maxwgn master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA	Quote: Quote: I think you will find that almost every carb from 66 back that was installed on a non performance application such as full size C bodies and others did not have a secondary air valve. Hmm, the 413 I had my AFB on was stamped HP and it had no weighted air valve. I did not say all,I said most !

Re: Carter AFB's [Re: 62maxwgn] #1561377 01/12/14 10:21 PM 01/12/14 10:21 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,842 Ohio J john55 master
john55 master J Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,842 Ohio	thanks! The Plymouth Win You Over Beat Goes On

Re: Carter AFB's [Re: john55] #1561378 01/13/14 01:32 AM 01/13/14 01:32 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Even the old 4GC Rochester I worked on from about a 64 Olds had an air valve in the secondaries. Ron

Re: Carter AFB's [Re: therocks] #1561379 01/13/14 02:22 AM 01/13/14 02:22 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 693 Dunnellon, FL longram60 mopar
longram60 mopar Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 693 Dunnellon, FL	Quote: My 60 D500 wasnt a low po motor either.It was a dual quad long ram.No weightys on them.I had a pic from a 60 mag that showed the carbs without them either.Rocky Interesting, my 2903s carbs on my long rams have the secondary air valve. 1979 AMC Spirit, NHRA Q/SA

Re: Carter AFB's [Re: 383man] #1561380 01/13/14 09:03 AM 01/13/14 09:03 AM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,842 Ohio J john55 master
john55 master J Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,842 Ohio	Quote: Even the old 4GC Rochester I worked on from about a 64 Olds had an air valve in the secondaries. Ron I've gotta admit, I've never seen an AFB w/o a weighted secondary air valve, but, I'm getting older/denser forgetful too I wonder how ...ahhh, nevermind... The Plymouth Win You Over Beat Goes On

Re: Carter AFB's [Re: longram60] #1561381 01/13/14 10:05 AM 01/13/14 10:05 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA 62maxwgn master
62maxwgn master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA	Quote: Quote: My 60 D500 wasnt a low po motor either.It was a dual quad long ram.No weightys on them.I had a pic from a 60 mag that showed the carbs without them either.Rocky Interesting, my 2903s carbs on my long rams have the secondary air valve. As they should,this had them too. 7995872-Picture859.jpg (104 downloads)

Re: Carter AFB's [Re: 62maxwgn] #1561382 01/13/14 11:14 AM 01/13/14 11:14 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,129 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,129 Niles , Ohio	The kids 62 300 413 didnt have any weights either.My AFBs on the D500 had the big adjustment screw in the middle of the A/F screws.I probally have a few like that.Some had that some didnt.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: Carter AFB's [Re: therocks] #1561383 01/13/14 11:28 AM 01/13/14 11:28 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA 62maxwgn master
62maxwgn master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA	Quote: The kids 62 300 413 didnt have any weights either.My AFBs on the D500 had the big adjustment screw in the middle of the A/F screws.I probally have a few like that.Some had that some didnt.Rocky Rocky,I'll debate you on that one,these are original 62 300H carbs,3258 and 3259,what do you see ? 7995932-P1130626.JPG (143 downloads)

Re: Carter AFB's [Re: 62maxwgn] #1561384 01/13/14 03:57 PM 01/13/14 03:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,129 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,129 Niles , Ohio	My kids is a single carb.Has no big center adjustment.A few I have at the old house do.IIRC I think at least one came from my D500.None have the weights though.All are stock OE carbs.Just wish I had at least kept the long Rams from the 60.I wish I had kept the whole running car that I scraped.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: Carter AFB's [Re: therocks] #1561385 01/13/14 10:56 PM 01/13/14 10:56 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 20,536 north of coder moparx "Butt Crack Bob"
moparx "Butt Crack Bob" Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 20,536 north of coder	what does the center adjuster do ? how is it adjusted ? is it adjusted differently with a 2 carb setup ?

Re: Carter AFB's [Re: moparx] #1561386 01/14/14 12:43 AM 01/14/14 12:43 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,911 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,911 Bend,OR USA	Quote: what does the center adjuster do ? how is it adjusted ? is it adjusted differently with a 2 carb setup ? Those type carbs, same as 1962 and 1963 M.W. carbs, used the big center screw to set the idle RPM No screw on the sides to set the idle rpm All(3) the Carter AFB I've seen that didn't have weighted secondary air doors had the venturi boosters come in from the sides of the carbs, not in from the rear of those carbs. like most of the other carbs do BTW, for some of you younger guys, you haven't seen all of what some of us older guys have seen, I watched the dinosuars die out Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Carter AFB's [Re: Cab_Burge] #1561387 01/14/14 01:04 AM 01/14/14 01:04 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA 62maxwgn master
62maxwgn master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,436 Blair County,PA	Quote: Quote: what does the center adjuster do ? how is it adjusted ? is it adjusted differently with a 2 carb setup ? Those type carbs, same as 1962 and 1963 M.W. carbs, used the big center screw to set the idle RPM No screw on the sides to set the idle rpm All(3) the Carter AFB I've seen that didn't have weighted secondary air doors had the venturi boosters come in from the sides of the carbs, not in from the rear of those carbs. like most of the other carbs do BTW, for some of you younger guys, you haven't seen all of what some of us older guys have seen, I watched the dinosuars die out I saw some when they were babies !!

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