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Re: Cal Tracs $$$ question [Re: StealthWedge67] #1554623
12/28/13 06:48 PM
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What is the best price on a set? I see some on 'bay for $339 shipped. Anybody have a better price?




Is that a real Caltrac set up or a knock off... why
not get the real ones with the support that goes with them





In my books, their customer support and service is next to none.





You would be one of very few that thinks that way...
MOST of the guys have had great service from them...
I dont run them so I cant say for myself





Mike, I think you're mis-enterpreting this comment. Im pretty sure he's saying that their sevice is great.




Yeah I guess I could be

Re: Cal Tracs $$$ question [Re: StealthWedge67] #1554624
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Okay. Let me rephrase about "Their service is next to none"

There was a time during a strict deadline build I was doing. The CalTrac's I recieved came in the wrong length, wrong bushings and wrong diameter nuts for the U bolts. To make a long story short, I called Calvert's to see what I could do to make them work. Apparntly the wrong parts in the correct package??? and there was no time whatsoever to send them back for the correct ones. John himself got on the horn and stayed on the phone with me until about 10 pm his time until the bars were right. I was taking the measurements he needed, he was calculating bar lengths, I was cutting and welding while he stayed there at his shop till all was right whereas he could have been home having supper with his family. Know anyone else who would do that? Luckily I had some bushings laying around that worked along with the proper nuts. He appoligized for the inconvenience and I said no problem and thanked him again for his help by staying on with me till the job was done. He told me he'd send me the proper bushings and nuts which I told him that he didn't have to, but low and behold the very next day a package came with bushings and nuts. I think the shipping charges were around $80 or so.

So my hat is off to Calvert Racing...Their service is next to none


Jerry Williams.
Re: Cal Tracs $$$ question [Re: hemidup] #1554625
12/28/13 08:18 PM
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I had been planning on building a knockoff "KalTrak" setup for my Ramcharger. But my welding skills do not compare to the quality that they offer in their kits and this is a critical area. I don't need to do any Olympic Pole Vault exhibitions with my toy

Better to practice the welding on less critical areas, save up my money, send them the dimensions of my project and order their kit.


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Re: Cal Tracs $$$ question [Re: Polarapete] #1554626
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Does the $339. include the mono springs ? I was under the impression with mono springs that they were close to $800 dollars ? Ron

Re: Cal Tracs $$$ question [Re: 383man] #1554627
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Does the $339. include the mono springs ? I was under the impression with mono springs that they were close to $800 dollars ? Ron




No springs

Re: Cal Tracs $$$ question [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1554628
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++++++++ john has a great pay out program for a lot of different classes ..


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Re: Cal Tracs $$$ question [Re: WHITEDART] #1554629
12/29/13 12:02 AM
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If you want to shop around to save some $$$$$, give Moneymaker Racing a call. They are a dealer for Cal-Tracs and may be able to provide a better deal as well as advice from experience.

They race Fords, but are good people.

http://moneymakerracing.net/home

Re: Cal Tracs $$$ question [Re: Locomotion] #1554630
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I recommend using them with the calvert mono springs only.
I tried Cal-tracs with mopar super stock springs....and they did NOT work..at all...with many , many adjustments.

i was the guinea pig..buy the calvert leafs !

Re: Cal Tracs $$$ question [Re: 493_DART] #1554631
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Stock six cylinder springs or monos. No superstock springs, do not work together with caltracs. A 11 second car should hook great with superstock springs and the correct length shock so they can wrap up. No snubber with superstocks either.

Re: Cal Tracs $$$ question [Re: 1967dartgt] #1554632
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http://www.srdparts.com/index.php?page=s...t&Itemid=1.

I like these better and are the same price as Cal-Traks. Plus they work on Mopars with boxes and not have to cut the box

Monte

Re: Cal Tracs $$$ question [Re: 1967dartgt] #1554633
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Stock six cylinder springs or monos. No superstock springs, do not work together with caltracs. A 11 second car should hook great with superstock springs and the correct length shock so they can wrap up. No snubber with superstocks either.





All I use is Superstock springs and the MP longer shocks and no pinion snubber. 1.50 best 60 at 10.70's as I thought about Caltracs but dont really think they will do much for me. Ron

Re: Cal Tracs $$$ question [Re: Monte_Smith] #1554634
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http://www.srdparts.com/index.php?page=s...t&Itemid=1.

I like these better and are the same price as Cal-Traks. Plus they work on Mopars with boxes and not have to cut the box

Monte




Those are a nice looking piece and I like the ability to do "finer adjustments." But is the information I heard of them only wanting to sell these to HIGH HP (read 800+) cars wrong? My buddy just ordered a set for his 6.0 LS turbo project and they are good quality.

Re: Cal Tracs $$$ question [Re: Monte_Smith] #1554635
12/29/13 01:47 PM
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http://www.srdparts.com/index.php?page=s...t&Itemid=1.

I like these better and are the same price as Cal-Traks. Plus they work on Mopars with boxes and not have to cut the box

Monte




Thanks Monte, I'll take a look. This car has original XHD springs and snubber. I know it should hook w/ SS but I'd rather not have the butt end "hill-jacked" Plus I will be adding HP in years to come. 150 shot this year and probably a stroked boosted BB at some point down the road. I hoping for 10.30's w/ the 150 shot if all goes well.

Re: Cal Tracs $$$ question [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1554636
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All traction devices, be it Cal-Traks, the Smith bars or just old fashion slapper bars, are designed to do the same thing. Stiffen the front segment and prevent spring wrap. The famed Super Stock spring did the same thing. Stiff in the front and weak in the back, is the reason cars extend so much with them. SS springs are NO better than what you have, if you "stack" it right. You can build your own spring that acts like a SS spring, by stacking front segments and removing rears. You want the front as stiff as it can be and just enough in the back for the car to ride where you want it.

That said, if your goal is to stiffen the front segment for traction, it will not matter if the car makes 400hp or 1000hp, your goal is the same. So the Smith bars will be fine.

Monte

Re: Cal Tracs $$$ question [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1554637
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That's their standard list price you can get them at mancini's too!
http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/catrbarsy1.html

Re: Cal Tracs $$$ question [Re: Monte_Smith] #1554638
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All traction devices, be it Cal-Traks, the Smith bars or just old fashion slapper bars, are designed to do the same thing. Stiffen the front segment and prevent spring wrap. The famed Super Stock spring did the same thing. Stiff in the front and weak in the back, is the reason cars extend so much with them. SS springs are NO better than what you have, if you "stack" it right. You can build your own spring that acts like a SS spring, by stacking front segments and removing rears. You want the front as stiff as it can be and just enough in the back for the car to ride where you want it.

That said, if your goal is to stiffen the front segment for traction, it will not matter if the car makes 400hp or 1000hp, your goal is the same. So the Smith bars will be fine.

Monte




Monte, what is the "starting point" on those bars? seems they have a good amount of adjustment on them. FWIW my 1st race car has South Side Machine lift bars.... (no longer in production)

Re: Cal Tracs $$$ question [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1554639
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All traction devices, be it Cal-Traks, the Smith bars or just old fashion slapper bars, are designed to do the same thing. Stiffen the front segment and prevent spring wrap. The famed Super Stock spring did the same thing. Stiff in the front and weak in the back, is the reason cars extend so much with them. SS springs are NO better than what you have, if you "stack" it right. You can build your own spring that acts like a SS spring, by stacking front segments and removing rears. You want the front as stiff as it can be and just enough in the back for the car to ride where you want it.

That said, if your goal is to stiffen the front segment for traction, it will not matter if the car makes 400hp or 1000hp, your goal is the same. So the Smith bars will be fine.

Monte




Monte, what is the "starting point" on those bars? seems they have a good amount of adjustment on them. FWIW my 1st race car has South Side Machine lift bars.... (no longer in production)




Depending on the torque you make but I would start
with the rear of the bar low in the bracket and the
front midway up the bracket... the rear at the low
point will give the bar the most movement forward
to give the most available lift.. but the front at
midway will reduce that some... this should apply
a good amount of lift to the front spring eyelet

Re: Cal Tracs $$$ question [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1554640
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I bought mine direct from Calvert. $339.00 for the caltracs & another $339.00 for the mono leafs for my Challenger. Originally the messed up & sent me the incorrect A body lower tubular bars. Re-sent the correct E body lower bars at no charge & told me to keep the incorerect A body bars. Great customer service.


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