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VON# ? #1544900
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No VON in trunk I guess quarter could have been replaced but looks original to us?? Found VON on core support but it is upside down ?? Anyone ever see one stamped upside down?? Thanks Larry J

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all the ones i have seen are.


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The stamp looks correct and matches the fender tag. But I thought it was odd to be upside down. Ever see one not stamped in both places?? We have no reason to believe that any panels have been replaced on this car. It does have the correct part # stamped into the trunk drip channel. Just curious?? Thanks Larry J

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you are looking on the driver side under the weather strip ?


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here is one

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2020 T/A 392 Stock 11.79 @ 114.5

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We are looking on drivers side where the weatherstrip would glue on at the trunk channel. We took off all the paint and nothing. And as I said appears to be oe panel and only painted 1 time and they did not remove original paint ? Thats why I asked if anyone ever seen 1 not stamped or only stamped in 1 place?? thanks Larry J

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Is that the drivers side top of core support you have a pic of ?? Mine is on the core support but it is drivers side on back side of core support and upside down.It would be like in between the core support and radiator if that makes since?? And no # in trunk?? Thanks Larry J

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yes that is driver side top.


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2020 T/A 392 Stock 11.79 @ 114.5

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this is from andy440.com

he is talkin about his dodge,but same for your gtx




Which brings us to where to look for the body numbers, to see if our car has been rebodied or not? There are two places to look on the 67-70 cars, one is on the front radiator support. It can be on the top of the support like mine, or on the back side facing the engine. The number you see starts with an "A" which stands for the assembly plant, in this case Lynch Road. The next digit is an "8" which stands for the model year - 1968. Next is a "W" which means Coronet body. The next six digits are the shipping order number, and you can see they match my fendertag. This same number is also stamped on the rear of the car under the weather stripping on the driver's side trunk area, for 1968 and newer. 1967 will be stamped on the rear bumper mounting area of the body. 1969 and newer cars have the last eight digits of the VIN instead of the shipping order number.

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Great info but has anyone seen only 1 stamp?? just curious i know its 45 years old and who knows what been done over the years. But it does not look like a new panel has been put on and factory primer is still there?? Thanks Larry J

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i have read that sometimes stamping was missed,,a superbird is an example of some not having the core support stamp.


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2020 T/A 392 Stock 11.79 @ 114.5

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Thanks again!! Larry J

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Hi

I assume your ID (68 GTX) is the same is the car you are asking about, I did not see mention of the year/model car you are referencing. If it's a B-Body (GTX) then you are right and it should be there..... If it's an E-Body then that's a different story.

If it's that important (only if it's really important)... I would take some lacquer thinner, a rag and maybe some sandpaper and take off the paint and any filler that may be covering it up.... Another hint would be to look for clues as to whether or not a replacement quarter panel was ever installed. That should be pretty easy if you know where to look and what you're looking for.

If it's a car that you own and enjoy driving....and you're just curious... I'd just enjoy it and keep driving it !

Good luck

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I was just curious as to why it is stamped upside down on the core support. And then we took it all the way to bare metal in the trunk channel and did not find a number. If the left quarter was replaced it was done with a factory quarter. It has the factory part # on it. No big deal to me. Just trying to learn what to look for. Thanks Larry J

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My 68 RR has the stamp on the core support upside down as well. (Lynch Rd, 5-68) On the trunk lip it is stamped so it can be read from looking over the fender. Mine was about half-way down.

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Not sure if you can actually read it - scanned from older picture.

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Thanks 68Jim. As I said we found the core support # But nothing in trunk. We took it down to bar metal. As heavy as that # is stamped it would be easy to see. This VON # was it just a random # or is in some way tied to the VIN#. In other words say your VIN# was RS23L8A100001 did they use just a random # or did they know VIN# 100001 would be specific VON#100100 then VIN# 100002 would be 100200. and so on or was it just a # pulled once the car was ordered?? If its just a random # not sure why they bothered. If a car was hit front and rear drivers side you could loose both #s in 1 wreck!!!!!! Thanks Larry J

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Quote:

This VON # was it just a random # or is in some way tied to the VIN#?




The SO aka VON is actually the first number assigned to a specific vehicle. Typically the number came from the individual order sheet provided at the dealer or sales bank. (Specialty VONs are another topic).

The SO number was administrative in nature and used to track the vehicle through the ordering, invoicing and billing before the VIN was assigned and before assembly. The SO ties to the VIN through documentation like invoices, window stickers, broadcast sheets, IBM inspection cards and other factory documents.


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So the VON# originated at the dealer at write up? Thanks larry J

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So the VON# originated at the dealer at write up?




Generally, if it was a customer or dealer ordered car: yes (again, package cars and specialty VON cars excepted).


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