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Re: Jim Ridge - Dixie Restorations - Nice Job! [Re: hemi68charger] #1543951
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man - a real 176 - 2nd one I've ever seen - Jim does great work!

Re: Jim Ridge - Dixie Restorations - Nice Job! [Re: shakerjoe] #1543952
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nice work... what was the cost??

Re: Jim Ridge - Dixie Restorations - Nice Job! [Re: hemi68charger] #1543953
12/05/13 11:28 AM
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That is an OUTSTANDING job........

One question Scott, in '70, the adjustment strap was curved in '70 on HEMI applications? I thought all years had the straight adjustment strap...




all OEM 69-71 hemi uses a straight adjustment bracket.

Re: Jim Ridge - Dixie Restorations - Nice Job! [Re: paris401] #1543954
12/05/13 11:29 AM
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My bill would not be representative of his typical restoration charge because there were core parts and extra machine work charges involved due to it's "special" condition. Contact Jim for a quote on your parts.

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all OEM 69-71 hemi uses a straight adjustment bracket.




Correct, this one had been replaced at one time

Re: Jim Ridge - Dixie Restorations - Nice Job! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1543955
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Thanks, Scott, appreciate the kind words. The tint on the alternator shells in the pictures is from a weak chromate wash. I have seen this on many assembly line pieces and most NOS shelf stock. If you look inside most 66 - 71 alternator and starter housings, you'll find traces of it. Apparently, it didn't weather well and was a short term solution to oxidation on aluminum parts after casting. Most NOS alternators show not only a chromate wash on the shells but also on the clear zink hardware. After talking to some plating guys I trust they pointed me toward a chemical that replicates the finish. As far as the orange marking on the rear shell, it is an indicator of amperage. Unless you specified an amperage upgrade when ordering the car from the dealer, CC supplied you with a 37 amp alternator on most "muscle cars."

Re: Jim Ridge - Dixie Restorations - Nice Job! [Re: 70RT] #1543956
12/05/13 12:47 PM
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No problem Jim

On the chromate finish, I have also seen a pretty fair degree of variability on NOS units I've seen.

One question though, I notice that the housing bolts on the Hemi unit are plated silver/gold, and on the other example showed above the same bolts are black. Is there some protocol as to which alternators got which?

Re: Jim Ridge - Dixie Restorations - Nice Job! [Re: hemi68charger] #1543957
12/05/13 02:30 PM
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Quote:

That is an OUTSTANDING job........

One question Scott, in '70, the adjustment strap was curved in '70 on HEMI applications? I thought all years had the straight adjustment strap...








I've only seen straight adjustment brackets on HEMI applications, B/E body, the 1970 HEMICUDA I'm working on right now rebuilding the engine, (all original, been sitting for close to 30 yrs/original owner) has a straight adjusting strap

Mike

Re: Jim Ridge - Dixie Restorations - Nice Job! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1543958
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Scott - two separate vendors. Clear zink "bullseye" housing bolts seem to be more common in 70. Black phosphate coated more common in earlier years but both are seen.

Re: Jim Ridge - Dixie Restorations - Nice Job! [Re: 70RT] #1543959
12/06/13 11:41 PM
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You mention that the original coating process did not weather well. Is your coating more durable, and will it last longer than original? Thanks... and GREAT WORK!!!!

Justin
"CornDog"


1966 Dodge Charger
1968 Plymouth Satellite (Un-Restored "Survivor")
1969 Dodge Charger (W.B. General Lee)
1969 Dodge Charger (Future DMCL Clone)
1969 Dodge Super Bee, 383 4spd
Re: Jim Ridge - Dixie Restorations - Nice Job! [Re: CornDogsCharger] #1543960
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Justin - the chromate wash CC used just delayed aluminum oxidation. Not much differently than other sacrificial finishes found on fasteners and parts of the day. As part of our finishing process, at the customers request, we dip the finished shells in a chemical bath. Since we just recently began offering this option, I don't know if it will provide any better weathering than the original process. I would guess it won't.

Re: Jim Ridge - Dixie Restorations - Nice Job! [Re: 70RT] #1543961
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I can add to that....If you wish to help preserve the chromate coating you can apply some of ECS's metal treatments to the freshly dipped surfaces, it will further seal the new surface from the harmful oxidation process. I like the AMMO product they sell, it wipes on with no heat, sort of like a very soft gel/wax. Allow it to dry and buff it off and it's 100% invisible.

Buy AMMO here

Re: Jim Ridge - Dixie Restorations - Nice Job! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1543962
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Quote:

I can add to that....If you wish to help preserve the chromate coating you can apply some of ECS's metal treatments to the freshly dipped surfaces, it will further seal the new surface from the harmful oxidation process. I like the AMMO product they sell, it wipes on with no heat, sort of like a very soft gel/wax. Allow it to dry and buff it off and it's 100% invisible.

Buy AMMO here




What about the RPM stuff that is similar?

Re: Jim Ridge - Dixie Restorations - Nice Job! [Re: 1972CudaV21] #1543963
12/07/13 03:11 PM
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RPM is a heavier duty product and would also work, however their recommended application method is to apply it to a heated/warmed part (160 degrees F or so) and I don't like to apply heat to delicate dipped or plated parts. The Ammo is a thinner product and wiping away remaining residue in small recesses on complex shaped parts (like and alternator case) is easier, Q-tips are handy in this job.

Re: Jim Ridge - Dixie Restorations - Nice Job! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1543964
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RPM is a heavier duty product and would also work, however their recommended application method is to apply it to a heated/warmed part (160 degrees F or so) and I don't like to apply heat to delicate dipped or plated parts. The Ammo is a thinner product and wiping away remaining residue in small recesses on complex shaped parts (like and alternator case) is easier, Q-tips are handy in this job.




Good info..sounds easier to work with..

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