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Re: 5" bore space Mopar blocks
[Re: jamesc]
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12/03/13 04:43 PM
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MRMOPAR622
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I would buy them in a Heart-Beat  Really both the chevy & ford racers don't just have them,they buy and use them.I have always paid more $$$ to build and race my Mopars and don't mind doing it.But you can't put enough $$$ into a engine to compete against someone with a 100-200 more cu. in. than you.If the chevy & ford racers can have them and have them at a decent price why can't we? It would be nice if for once all fellow Mopar Racers would get behind this and at least support it,so the ones of us who want the parts could get them. Even if you don't want them now it would be available later if you had a change of heart. Now I know the idea might seem a little far fetch,but I don't think Dan would post something like this to get everyones opinion unless he had some idea he could get it done if there was a market for it. Thats all we do on here is work against each other trying to put all our fellow Mopar racers down.I don't think I need to tell anyone but,the chevy & ford people all work together to try and put the Mopar people down.Why can't us Mopar Racers be that way?
"To Be The Man'You Have Got To Beat The Man"
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Re: 5" bore space Mopar blocks
[Re: MRMOPAR622]
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12/03/13 05:45 PM
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TRENDZ
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Looks more like you are taking a poll to see how many people have a clue on what a 5" bore space block is. I smell an underlying purpose to this poll. .
"use it 'till it breaks, replace as needed"
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Re: 5" bore space Mopar blocks
[Re: MRMOPAR622]
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12/03/13 05:56 PM
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jim sciortino
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At this point, I'd take a current re-design of a Millennium HEMI in 4.800, or 4.840, with a cylinder block available in multiple configurations......from the iron, to billet, to CG, optional pan rail spacing, cam placement and diameters, deck heights, water/solid, blank lifter pads, etc.........and have it be AVALIABLE in under 8 years at less than the cost of the gross national product of an emerging nation.
I know........WAY too much to ask.
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Re: 5" bore space Mopar blocks
[Re: MRMOPAR622]
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12/03/13 06:01 PM
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I would buy them in a Heart-Beat Really both the chevy & ford racers don't just have them,they buy and use them.I have always paid more $$$ to build and race my Mopars and don't mind doing it.But you can't put enough $$$ into a engine to compete against someone with a 100-200 more cu. in. than you.If the chevy & ford racers can have them and have them at a decent price why can't we?
It would be nice if for once all fellow Mopar Racers would get behind this and at least support it,so the ones of us who want the parts could get them. Even if you don't want them now it would be available later if you had a change of heart.
Now I know the idea might seem a little far fetch,but I don't think Dan would post something like this to get everyones opinion unless he had some idea he could get it done if there was a market for it.
Thats all we do on here is work against each other trying to put all our fellow Mopar racers down.I don't think I need to tell anyone but,the chevy & ford people all work together to try and put the Mopar people down.Why can't us Mopar Racers be that way?
Why would I BS Dan by saying.. sure I want one.. if
he is looking for a REAL idea of how much support
it would have... I sold off by B-1 M/C heads and mega
block because I cant get my nhra license any longer
and I had a good bit of coin in that engine... could
I build something of what he is asking... I doubt it...
I would rather be honest with him
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Re: 5" bore space Mopar blocks
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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12/03/13 06:16 PM
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I look at racing this way. I've gone 8.40's with a set of 440-1 heads so my next step is going to be more compression and B1's. That should get me to some low 8's. I figure if I want to take the next step I could always play with some NOS. Maybe if I was younger and rich I would look at it a little differently. Not a dragster guy or I would go fast the easy way. 
1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: 5" bore space Mopar blocks
[Re: rickraw]
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12/03/13 07:20 PM
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B G Racing
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If i had Bob George's money i'd build 1. I'm like Mr.P, sb. My car is fast enough.
If I had your money I wouldn't need mine  Do you really call your engine a "small block"  All kidding aside Rich you have a great running "big" small block and one beautiful car.  
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Re: 5" bore space Mopar blocks
[Re: Performance Only]
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12/03/13 08:34 PM
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Naturally any engine combo like that wouldn't be cheap, so I realize that probably eliminates 98% of the people on Moparts.
Man I get weary of the cheapshots anymore. Seems like half the "online machinist" here act like they work for nasa and your a good for nothing purist poor boy if you dont patron them.
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Re: 5" bore space Mopar blocks
[Re: MRMOPAR622]
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12/03/13 08:34 PM
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Why would I BS Dan by saying.. sure I want one.. if he is looking for a REAL idea of how much support it would have... I sold off by B-1 M/C heads and mega block because I cant get my nhra license any longer and I had a good bit of coin in that engine... could I build something of what he is asking... I doubt it... I would rather be honest with him
I asked for fellow Mopar racers to support/back it only, not lie to him telling him you were gonna buy one.  You know just maybe a Hey Dan its not for me but I think it might be great for some of the other Mopar racers. 
Everyone knows you are a "Well Respected Man" on here and a Good word from you would go a long ways in helping get something like this up and going. 
Sure it would be nice if it were out there and at
a reasonable price(considering that the demand would
be on the low side... I would think(could be way wrong)
but Dan sure doesnt need any backing/words by little
old me... but if he were to do something like this I
would wish him the best of luck
Oh... thanks for the kind words
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Re: 5" bore space Mopar blocks
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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12/03/13 09:07 PM
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Some people just dont get it..So maybe large print will help. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A 760" FORD OR CHEVY!!! These are simply purpose built race engines. ANY 5 or 5.3" bore space deal is simply that. They are no more a Chevy or Ford than a Mopar variant would be. Criminy some Mopar guys kill me..They complain that there is nothing "mopar" out there like that to compete with. Well I hate to tell ya but there aint nothing Ford or Chevy out there either. Only CN Billet, Sonny's or Dart etc stuff. I winder how many here have ever even SEEN a 5, or 5.3" borespace deal. BTW there are large bore space "Mopar" heads out there already.....Of course no one remembers the 99 Hemi stuff I guess. If you want a 5 or 5.3" bore space engine than buy or build one. Heck get a sonny's "hemi" and call it a mopar. 99% of the people out there wont know it is not a Mopar anyway 
"I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know."
"It's never wrong to do the right thing"
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Re: 5" bore space Mopar blocks
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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12/03/13 09:48 PM
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Defbob
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Some people just dont get it..So maybe large print will help.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A 760" FORD OR CHEVY!!!
These are simply purpose built race engines. ANY 5 or 5.3" bore space deal is simply that. They are no more a Chevy or Ford than a Mopar variant would be. Criminy some Mopar guys kill me..They complain that there is nothing "mopar" out there like that to compete with. Well I hate to tell ya but there aint nothing Ford or Chevy out there either. Only CN Billet, Sonny's or Dart etc stuff. I winder how many here have ever even SEEN a 5, or 5.3" borespace deal.
BTW there are large bore space "Mopar" heads out there already.....Of course no one remembers the 99 Hemi stuff I guess.
If you want a 5 or 5.3" bore space engine than buy or build one. Heck get a sonny's "hemi" and call it a mopar. 99% of the people out there wont know it is not a Mopar anyway
The Chevy 5.0-5.3" take a Chevy waterpump... and Chevy bellhousing.
If the motor takes a Hemi water pump/housing, damper, flywheel/tranny, distributor, gear drive, I'd call it a Mopar motor
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Re: 5" bore space Mopar blocks
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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12/03/13 09:50 PM
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how about just a decent iron wedge block thats comparable in price to a gm aftermarket race block.everything mopar costs way more period.and its either use a 30 year old questionable block or shell out the second mortgage and wait 6mos,7mos,8mos,or whatever the going waiting period is.its high time somebody step up and ease the burden,if comparably priced and quality parts were readily available,it would sell!!! its not rocket science.seems every time somebody steps up it becomes a 10,000 dollar piece and then it disappears...
SFI 25.5 depends,no leak,even at 213 mph....
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Re: 5" bore space Mopar blocks
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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12/03/13 11:19 PM
12/03/13 11:19 PM
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Diablo
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Some people just dont get it..So maybe large print will help.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A 760" FORD OR CHEVY!!!
These are simply purpose built race engines. ANY 5 or 5.3" bore space deal is simply that. They are no more a Chevy or Ford than a Mopar variant would be. Criminy some Mopar guys kill me..They complain that there is nothing "mopar" out there like that to compete with. Well I hate to tell ya but there aint nothing Ford or Chevy out there either. Only CN Billet, Sonny's or Dart etc stuff. I winder how many here have ever even SEEN a 5, or 5.3" borespace deal.
BTW there are large bore space "Mopar" heads out there already.....Of course no one remembers the 99 Hemi stuff I guess.
If you want a 5 or 5.3" bore space engine than buy or build one. Heck get a sonny's "hemi" and call it a mopar. 99% of the people out there wont know it is not a Mopar anyway
You have no idea how many times people Came up to my old 640 b1-TS engines and asked if it was a Hemi.
NOw That I have a 650 ci 5in BS Hemi. People come up and ask if its an original 426 Hemi.... Depending on the day I tell them yup... right out of gramma's grocery getter. Other days I'll take the time to explain what it is.
The block under my 5in Hemi Heads is a Donovan 5 in block. Just blank lifter galley and head bolts. Goodwin Placed them where they have to be to bolt on the Mopar 99 5 in heads.
After building two b1-TS engines with the 4.840 BS's stuff I wouldn't say it wasn't much of any advantage for the extra cost.
I guess i'm one of the 99% that needs something of this level of performance. It doesn't take a endless pocket book to run these engines. It takes budgeting, not making the same mistake twice, do it right the first time, and spend wisely and where it needs to be spent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4GwYlnBCQ8
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Re: 5" bore space Mopar blocks
[Re: Diablo]
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12/03/13 11:50 PM
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Chris'sBarracuda
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Dan.. Just develop a head that will bolt up on a Chevy block and put Mopar somewhere on it.. Done.. Best of both worlds..  Chris.. 
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