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Re: stock six pack vs single plane 4V?
[Re: 440gtx6]
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12/01/13 09:36 PM
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I cannot speak directly to the Torker II. I did several engine dyno pulls on my 500" motor with the Indy dual plane, Six Pack, and Holley SD. The 4 bbl was a small venture 950 Holley type carb. You can spend hours in the weeds dissecting all of the data, but the bottom line is they were all pretty close to each other. The six pack was better than the SD but weaker than the 2D up to 4200. After that the six pack trailed them both. FWIW, I track tuned my six pack set up on a 440 with a small hydraulic cam. My best ets/mph were achieved with jetting similar to the MP engine manual. I slapped it on the 500 on the dyno and ended up with the best numbers coming with only a slight increase in jet size. I just don't think the six pack is that hard to tune or that far off. 
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Re: stock six pack vs single plane 4V?
[Re: StealthWedge67]
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12/02/13 04:42 PM
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Im no expert of any kind but my experience whit the Six Pack setup on a 440 and a 505 stroker is the same as Cab is trying to explane but i gueas that some of you out there tryed out bad carbs that some one had destroid before you got your hands on them and tryed it out I found a great articel explaining how they work and how to tune the carbs that whas writen by a Dr. Jerry Binder that i can recomend you reed and i can email it to you if you PM me whit the email  If you whant i can share the jeting i ended up whit on my setup  Im going to try a progresive six pack kind of carbs for next summer from Barry Grant but i have to make the outer carbīs venturi larger first 
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Re: stock six pack vs single plane 4V?
[Re: Mopar Guy]
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12/02/13 07:48 PM
12/02/13 07:48 PM
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Mr.Yuck
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Im no expert of any kind but my experience whit the Six Pack setup on a 440 and a 505 stroker is the same as Cab is trying to explane but i gueas that some of you out there tryed out bad carbs that some one had destroid before you got your hands on them and tryed it out
I found a great articel explaining how they work and how to tune the carbs that whas writen by a Dr. Jerry Binder that i can recomend you reed and i can email it to you if you PM me whit the email
If you whant i can share the jeting i ended up whit on my setup
Im going to try a progresive six pack kind of carbs for next summer from Barry Grant but i have to make the outer carbīs venturi larger first
I think the BG six-shooter mechanicals have far less cfm than the stock units...
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Re: stock six pack vs single plane 4V?
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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12/03/13 08:25 AM
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493 stroker e heads un ported right out of the box
11 to 1 comp pump gas
3800 lbs with me in it
10.95 at 120.50with 850 holley /victor intake 4.56 gear
11.18 at 121.60 with stock 6pac intake promax carb plates
4.10 gear
i think if we put the 456 gearback in it, it will run the same
only the 6 pac factor on the street is awesome
and it gets 12 mph to the gallon on the hiway!!
606 hemi pump gas best 9.60 at 142mph on motor
05 hemi daytona 1500 go-mango 4wd quadcab
2007 hotrod mag pump gas drags runner up, roadkill nights dodge big tire winner 2018 2019 back to back
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Re: stock six pack vs single plane 4V?
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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12/03/13 11:18 AM
12/03/13 11:18 AM
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Mopar Guy
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Im no expert of any kind but my experience whit the Six Pack setup on a 440 and a 505 stroker is the same as Cab is trying to explane but i gueas that some of you out there tryed out bad carbs that some one had destroid before you got your hands on them and tryed it out
I found a great articel explaining how they work and how to tune the carbs that whas writen by a Dr. Jerry Binder that i can recomend you reed and i can email it to you if you PM me whit the email
If you whant i can share the jeting i ended up whit on my setup
Im going to try a progresive six pack kind of carbs for next summer from Barry Grant but i have to make the outer carbīs venturi larger first
I think the BG six-shooter mechanicals have far less cfm than the stock units...
Yes Mr Yuck they are smaler on the outboard carbs but i wrote that im about to enlarge the venturiīs on those the pic show tha carb body from the BG verses Holley ! The BG should flow 355 cfm and the Holley 500 cfm and as you can see the anual booster in the BG is bigger and there are 8 feeding holes under the booster but the venturi is a tad smaler and im going to copy the opening area from the Holley to those BGīs in al 4 corners
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Re: stock six pack vs single plane 4V?
[Re: ppmracing]
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12/03/13 04:26 PM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
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We got 45 Moore hp with this custome sheet metal six pack intake , compaire to a max ported Edelbrock Victor with a 800cfm carb.
We put allot off work in the carburator and the trottle respons is awesome,,,, 60 feet time 1,251 with trans brake and 3250 Pound car.
Does it help to port or gasket match the six-pack intake?
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Re: stock six pack vs single plane 4V?
[Re: cudaman1969]
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12/04/13 09:15 AM
12/04/13 09:15 AM
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Mr.Yuck
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Ok so how would the Weiand six-pac intake stand up to the single 4 intake? I hope better because that's what I got. Man it looks wild!
Is it the 6-pack "Ram" style w/ the top plate? If so yes, it's a good intake.
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Re: stock six pack vs single plane 4V?
[Re: BobR]
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12/05/13 11:38 AM
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My 6 pak is on a SB 416. It has been port matched but other than that the manifold is as delivered. On the dyno it made 499 HP. We took that setup off and put on an RPM Airgap and an Holley 750 HP. We changed nothing else to optimize and the jets were as they were in the dyno mule carb. It picked up 39 HP with just the carb/manifold change. I have heard that the BB 6 paks are better than the SB but that's my story.
Big blocks work better with 6 packs..Id bet anything that the disparity would be FAR less...
I have made nice power with a 6 pack-in both standard and stroker applications....I dont find them difficult to tune at all and can work VERY well with stroker motors..
The Chevrolet version on the Corvette's are terrible, IMO and the single Holley on those work WAY better..
The photo is of a 526 I did for an A12 bee, but Ed Cooks A12 FAST cars both ran 10.70's with the manual trans A12 going 130MPH, set up just as the way it is in the photo..manifolds and bias tires..
MB
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