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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
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11/23/08 04:53 PM
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I noticed you do not list some of the grill parts individually.
I am not beefing with you but why does nobody sell parts seperate. I need 1 turn signal lens for a 70 Barracuda, I also need 1 turn signal lens for a 74.
I'm Sorry, but I do understand the need, sometimes for individual pcs,.....I get those requests "ocassionialy".......but regarding lenses, wouldn't you want a matching set, in regards to texture, tint, clarity, etc?.....what happens when a "vendor" decides to help you out and breaks up a set, and now it dosen't quite match up to the other, or makes your original pale in comparison,......then your on the phone/net looking for it's "mate"?.....I could understand a fender, or grille pc that gets painted, or plated, etc......but lenses? 
I see your point. The lenses were just an example but it can be applied across the board. Chrome trim, weather striping, tape stripe kits, etc. Some items even require paint before install like door hinges and are usually sold only in sets.
Often only one part gets damaged from accidents or ordinary use and needs replacing. In my case I have daily drivers and if they are in an accident like the 74 turn signal lens I am not lookng for perfect matches but a replacement for a part damaged in an accident. I've seen people have to buy an entire set of weatherstripping because one part got damaged while installing it.
There are a lot of us who like to drive them every day if we can. The only reason I don't drive my 70 every day is because if somebody backs into it in a parking lot I can't replace just the damaged parts of the grill. I have to replace the whole grill or search for months to get used replacement parts.
I am not bashing anybodies business model. It apparently works because nobody sells seperate sets but what if that business model is wrong and everyone is blindly following it? I feel if you only cater to one part of the hobby (those who buy complete sets) you are loosing money that could be made from the others in the hobby. Some people buy a part at a time and save them up as they build a car. Others drive them and don't need to spend $1,600 in parts to repair $200 worth of damage.
Maybe I'm wrong but I see a need and nobody is filling it, where is capitalizm when you need it. 
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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
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11/24/08 12:01 AM
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Just don't lecture the rest of us when he comes on here for advise
He didn't ask for advise about how to run his business. He was taking a poll on the demand/interest for 71 grills. Didn't you understand his first post that consisted of those two very simple choices? "YES or "NO" were the responses he asked for.
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it makes ZERO business sense to throw away perfectly good inventory when it could be marked down and sold.
You definitely should not throw away whatever inventory you have if that is what you choose to do with it. I agree 100% on that point.  Just out of curiosity, what business are you involved in that has you considering throwing away the "inventory" that you mentioned?
Since you haven't kept up, I'll tell you that your buddy is the one that me and several others have questioned on why he would throw out/destroy perfectly good grills. He said that, it has been pointed out, and here you are asking me where I saw it at. 
Please try and keep up 
Your buddy doesn't need our advise according to you, yet he came on here and asked.
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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
[Re: SomeCarGuy]
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11/24/08 12:26 PM
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Your buddy doesn't need our advise according to you, yet he came on here and asked.
Your ability to read between the lines is without equal! I have looked high and low throughout this thread trying to find where he asked for advice (as you keep claiming) on what to do with the 70 grills. I can only find where he “polled” for interest in 71 style grills and asked someone a rhetorical question of what they thought the price should be for a 70 grill. I can’t seem to locate anything where he asked what he should do with left over inventory items. Would you mind humoring my obvious oversight, by referencing the post(s) where he asked advice on what he should do with the 70 grills? Substantiating comments with facts does wonders for someone’s credibility.
**I would hope that Mike Ross is considered a "buddy" to everyone in this hobby. His efforts are beneficial to all who are involved. Thanks Mike!**
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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
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11/24/08 01:33 PM
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"The investment is extremely high and I really don't want to be in the same situation we are currently in with the 70 Cuda grille assembly we made."
Mike can you explain this statement further No bad news I hope 
I'd buy a 71 grill or two 
What's there to explain? The 70 grilles that aren't painted and detailed yet are going to be ground up and used to make other ABS plastic parts.
Since you can't seem to find it, here you go.
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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
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11/24/08 01:34 PM
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I have a hard time beleiving you can't come out ahead by discounting and offing the molded grilles instead of trying to recoup whatever money is in the regrind.
Here is one of the smart, read between the lines people.
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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
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11/24/08 01:34 PM
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"I have a hard time beleiving you can't come out ahead by discounting and offing the molded grilles instead of trying to recoup whatever money is in the regrind. "
Yeah no kidding. Sounds like "I'm going to crush this car if it doesn't sell" Epay tactics.
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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
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11/24/08 01:35 PM
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I have a hard time beleiving you can't come out ahead by discounting and offing the molded grilles instead of trying to recoup whatever money is in the regrind.
This is spoken like a true plastics man
Because as you (and I) both know, the market price for regrind ABS is about $.50 lb for (clean) regrind flake, and if it's been painted it's useless/worthless.
Mike, make the Shark tooth grille, you'll be able to make a profit, plus they are smaller, simpler, fit several different year cars, (even if not original guys will use them) and are MUCH easier to ship safely.
Yet another.
I could go on but hopefully you will open your eyes this time. Again it is up to you and not anybody else.
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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
[Re: SomeCarGuy]
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11/24/08 02:36 PM
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I'm not going to beat my head against a wall here.
I don't blame you. The additional damage could prove to be irreversible.
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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
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11/24/08 03:06 PM
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I'm not going to beat my head against a wall here.
I don't blame you. The additional damage could prove to be irreversible.
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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
[Re: SomeCarGuy]
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11/24/08 11:03 PM
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Explain to the rest of us why you think that he should destroy those parts?
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You seem to have a problem reading subject matter into things that are not there. Where did I ever say (or think) that Mike should destroy his parts? I live by the motto: Never criticize (second guess) another person until you walk a mile in their shoes. As I plainly stated in an earlier post, “Hey Mike, I am sure you have visited every nook and cranny in an attempt to figure out the direction you need to take in order for this scenario to work out. It is easy to second guess a situation looking from the outside in but I know that when you evaluate all the numbers and consider the facts regarding your product venture, you will come up with a viable solution.”
You might want to follow your own advice and “Please try and keep up”. The words in the posts are quite clear if you would simply stop trying to skew things to promote your opinion.
(Say hello to CMG)
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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
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11/24/08 11:19 PM
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If you can't comment on all the factors, don't go down that road. You'll always get unwarrented opinions.
I don't think that Mike started the thread to talk about the success or demise of the 1970 grills. If you look at this thread it pertains to the 1971 grill and it's possibilities. The comment "don't go down that road" might better be directed to whoever side tracked the topic.
That is where you started in on people that don't agree with you. As he said, Mike took it down that road himself, he knew he would get comments so he should have let that dog lay there. He brought it up, that HAS to be clear at this point. 
Since you agree that grinding up perfectly good parts makes no sense, why are you so set on sparing with people that hold that same view?
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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
[Re: SomeCarGuy]
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11/24/08 11:37 PM
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Since you agree that grinding up perfectly good parts makes no sense, why are you so set on sparing with people that hold that same view?
Are you referring to this statement that I made:
"You definitely should not throw away whatever inventory you have if that is what you choose to do with it. I agree 100% on that point. Just out of curiosity, what business are you involved in that has you considering throwing away the "inventory" that you mentioned?"
It is sad that I have to explain this but I was referring to you. If YOU had inventory that YOU wanted to throw away, have at it! It would be YOURS to do whatever YOU wish. It was just a bit of sarcastic dialog. Unbelievable.
Enjoy the thread.
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