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71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST #153809
11/20/08 02:47 AM
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Since the resin grille made be Premier Plastic is no longer available, I am wondering if the market would bare the $799 it would take to get a grey ABS plastic one like the original.

The investment is extremely high and I really don't want to be in the same situation we are currently in with the 70 Cuda grille assembly we made.

I'm not sold on the project and wanted to see if the interest is there for a correctly made piece that won't warp and melt like a resin piece.

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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST [Re: HEMICUDA] #153810
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"The investment is extremely high and I really don't want to be in the same situation we are currently in with the 70 Cuda grille assembly we made."

Mike can you explain this statement further No bad news I hope

I'd buy a 71 grill or two


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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST [Re: anlauto] #153811
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"The investment is extremely high and I really don't want to be in the same situation we are currently in with the 70 Cuda grille assembly we made."

Mike can you explain this statement further No bad news I hope

I'd buy a 71 grill or two




What's there to explain? The 70 grilles that aren't painted and detailed yet are going to be ground up and used to make other ABS plastic parts.

Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST [Re: HEMICUDA] #153812
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"The investment is extremely high and I really don't want to be in the same situation we are currently in with the 70 Cuda grille assembly we made."

Mike can you explain this statement further No bad news I hope

I'd buy a 71 grill or two




What's there to explain? The 70 grilles that aren't painted and detailed yet are going to be ground up and used to make other ABS plastic parts.





If you haven't been selling the 70 grills then I doubt you'll sell very many 71's.


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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST [Re: moparmarks] #153813
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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST [Re: ringo440] #153815
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Mike,

Wow thats a shock that your not doing so well with the grills. I think they are some great pieces. I think guys say they will buy the pieces but try to wait until either your prices come down or until they can afford it. I know a lot of guys who want to buy your stuff but want to wait until they get to that phase of their project. Its a super tough thing to sell everything as soon as its produced. I think you would be in the same boat folks saying they want them but not buying them right away. Im sure you know this but i just though i would throw the info out there.

Steve

P.S. IMO what I would do is ask the question like you have compile a list with names and contact info. Once you get enough interested in the project contact the customers on your list have a small deposit and start production. Then you have customers lined up plus anyone else who comes along and sees the quality at shows or from word of mouth

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"The investment is extremely high and I really don't want to be in the same situation we are currently in with the 70 Cuda grille assembly we made."

Mike can you explain this statement further No bad news I hope

I'd buy a 71 grill or two





What's there to explain? The 70 grilles that aren't painted and detailed yet are going to be ground up and used to make other ABS plastic parts.





If you haven't been selling the 70 grills then I doubt you'll sell very many 71's.





Actually, it's a toss up where we will be using the ground up plastic between the 71 Cuda and the Duster Sharktooth grille. I'm leaning towards the shark.

Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST [Re: HEMICUDA] #153817
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I've got a 71. I'd like a new grille, but if the 70's are at the price you have online, there is a smaller market, and lots more work and parts, I'd guess you would have to at least double the price to be where you are now with the 70s. That's out of my reach. Go with the sharktooth.
Sorry to hear the 70s are not moving. They look very nice.

Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST [Re: RodStRace] #153818
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Hi Mike,
I bought one of your 70 grille's and love it. I opened the box and couldn't believe what a nice piece it is! I didn't need it at that exact moment I bought it, but I thought who knows how long they will be available?
As to a 71 Cuda grille, I'd buy one in a heartbeat!!!
Thanks Mike for all you do!

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Mike,

Forget the 71 grilles - MAKE THE DOOR PANELS INSTEAD!!!

Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST [Re: sixpaktoogo] #153820
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I have a hard time beleiving you can't come out ahead by discounting and offing the molded grilles instead of trying to recoup whatever money is in the regrind.


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Hi Mike,

I bought one of your 70 grille's and love it. I opened the box and couldn't believe what a nice piece it is! I didn't need it at that exact moment I bought it, but I thought who knows how long they will be available?
As to a 71 Cuda grille, I'd buy one in a heartbeat!!!
Thanks Mike for all you do!





Thx for the kind comments. The 70 grille was a very large and expensive project to get it right and when you really think about all the parts involved it was a major project for sure.

1. Right headlight bucket.
2. Left headlight bucket.
3. Brass inserts for the bucket mounting feet.
4. Main grille.
5. Red bars.
6. Red bar clips.
7. "Plymouth" emblem.
8. Rear mounting plates.
9. Left bucket trim.
10. Right bucket trim.
11. Top trim.
12. Bottom trim.
13. Left parking light bezel.
14. Right parking light bezel.
15. Pigtail.
16. Left inside rectangular lens.
17. Right inside rectangular lens.
18. Left main parking lens.
19. Right main parking lens.

Now that the parts have been itemized, I'm amazed at how many different ones it takes to do a complete grille.

Making a part that the market doesn't want or can afford is no ones fault by my own. At least I'll have spares for my own cars for sure.

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"I have a hard time beleiving you can't come out ahead by discounting and offing the molded grilles instead of trying to recoup whatever money is in the regrind. "

Yeah no kidding. Sounds like "I'm going to crush this car if it doesn't sell" Epay tactics.

Sheldon

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Mike, after seeing the 70's you did, I've been hoping that you would venture into the 71's, I'd be in for 1 definately, more than likely 2 - but I do understand the possibilty it may not happen due to tooling/marketing/contracting. But there is always hope . I thought the 70's were an outstanding job, can't understand why they haven't been really moving, not a big expense in my opinion as to a mint original - when and if it can be found. If I had a 70 I would have been in for 1 or 2 also. It's hard for me to understand when people complain about the lack of a part, and then someone goes through all the motions to bring said part to market, then it doesn't sell as well as the research led him to believe it would. I've actually thought about buying 1 of your 70's to put on a shelf in case they are discontinued - and is needed by someone at a later date. Should have done that back in late 70's and early 80's - (I thought about it but never did it) - whn I had my in at S&W Dodge - shoulda woulda coulda (cuda). Hope you do it though for the 71's - Joe

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I have a hard time beleiving you can't come out ahead by discounting and offing the molded grilles instead of trying to recoup whatever money is in the regrind.




Point well taken. I have a serious question for you, what price do you think the 70 Cuda grille assemblies should be for them to move? Keep in mind, I can write off a loss, use the material for other parts and have more warehouse space for profitable product. All that adds up to value.

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"I have a hard time beleiving you can't come out ahead by discounting and offing the molded grilles instead of trying to recoup whatever money is in the regrind. "

Yeah no kidding. Sounds like "I'm going to crush this car if it doesn't sell" Epay tactics.

Sheldon





Sheldon,

Plz don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming anyone for the soft sales of the grille but myself and if you knew me like others do you would know I pull no punches it is what it is. Keep in mine, any reproduction part is no more than a part number with an investment cost attached to it. Companies make decision to discontinue a product every day and clear off the shelves for new ones. Do you have any idea what the inventory tax burden that would be saved? Sometimes you just have to cut your losses and move on, that's business.

BTW, I would never crush a MOPAR nor threaten to.

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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST [Re: HEMICUDA] #153826
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I have a hard time beleiving you can't come out ahead by discounting and offing the molded grilles instead of trying to recoup whatever money is in the regrind.




This is spoken like a true plastics man

Because as you (and I) both know, the market price for regrind ABS is about $.50 lb for (clean) regrind flake, and if it's been painted it's useless/worthless.

Mike, make the Shark tooth grille, you'll be able to make a profit, plus they are smaller, simpler, fit several different year cars, (even if not original guys will use them) and are MUCH easier to ship safely.

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Hey Mike,
I am sure you have visited every nook and cranny in an attempt to figure out the direction you need to take in order for this scenario to work out. It is easy to second guess a situation looking from the outside in but I know that when you evaluate all the numbers and consider the facts regarding your product venture, you will come up with a viable solution.
Thank you very much for the time and effort that you dedicate in order to make the Mopar world a better place for all of us!

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Yea Mike, what Dave said, now quit being a such a knucklehead and get to work on the Shark Tooth Duster grille!



*BTW, I'll buy your overstock 70 Cuda grilles, I'll pay twice the going rate for scrap and pick up the shipping tab as well, but only if you don't grind them up (I'll figure out a way to store them, no worries)

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