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Re: 360 in 1937 truck [Re: poorboy] #1525690 11/15/13 03:27 PM 11/15/13 03:27 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,757 levittown pa fstfish66 top fuel
fstfish66 top fuel Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,757 levittown pa	Quote: I've heard the Magnum 360 (5.9) heads are the best small block heads produced, but they have a different angle for the bolts that hold the intake on, so extra work/parts are required to use them on an LA motor. Gene yes the magnum heads flow great,,but used ones are prone to have cracks in the chamber area,,and use a rocker set up not as good as pre magnums,,,the 1989 heads are same as magnums sorta and use the shaft mounted rocker systems,, 1966 barracuda prostreeter super charged 340(SOLD) 1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod 2014 ram express hemi 4x4 dailey driver 2015 cherokee 2013 R/T classic

Re: 360 in 1937 truck [Re: fstfish66] #1525691 11/18/13 02:46 AM 11/18/13 02:46 AM
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36dodge OP member 3 Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 58 NH	What do u think.....found a friend... An Edelbrock 2177 cam and lifter kit $100 Should i pick it up? Hmmmm that with a dual plane intake fresh vlv job and my headers?

Re: 360 in 1937 truck [Re: 36dodge] #1525692 11/19/13 07:46 PM 11/19/13 07:46 PM
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36dodge OP member 3 Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 58 NH	cam & lifters $100??? all new still in the box is it worth the effort?

Re: 360 in 1937 truck [Re: 36dodge] #1525693 11/19/13 08:39 PM 11/19/13 08:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,953 Freeport IL USA poorboy I Live Here
poorboy I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,953 Freeport IL USA	What are the specs on the cam? Unless a guy knows the numbers, the cam may work great or not so great on a street rod. A good street mannered cam for $100 would be a go, but some radical high rpm race cam might not be a good deal for a street driven car, even at $100. Least that is my Gene

Re: 360 in 1937 truck [Re: poorboy] #1525694 11/20/13 02:51 AM 11/20/13 02:51 AM
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36dodge OP member 3 Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 58 NH	.270/.270 dur, .420/.420 lift, mech

Re: 360 in 1937 truck [Re: 36dodge] #1525695 11/20/13 12:44 PM 11/20/13 12:44 PM
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dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	Do it. Its Summit price is $200. You can use stock springs. If the exhausts have rotaters, remove them and the springs and replace with the same stuff that's on the intake. 318 roller cam springs like I found on my '86 Fifth 318 are a little stiffer than the stock springs and would be a decent upgrade. Specs are 204/204 @ 50 lift, 110LSA 0.420 lift. It's really really close to the old Comp 252H grind, they claimed 0.425 lift otherwise everything else's the same. I bought one several years ago to use in a 318 and have never gotten around to using it. It's one step bigger than a stock 360 cam and makes a really nice cam for a 318. It'll get more power from the 360 with excellent manners. R.

Re: 360 in 1937 truck [Re: 36dodge] #1525696 11/21/13 01:49 AM 11/21/13 01:49 AM
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fstfish66 top fuel Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,757 levittown pa	Quote: cam & lifters $100??? all new still in the box is it worth the effort? if new in box sure its worth 100 but are the specs what you need ?? flipping it for more may be hard to do,,, 1966 barracuda prostreeter super charged 340(SOLD) 1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod 2014 ram express hemi 4x4 dailey driver 2015 cherokee 2013 R/T classic

Re: 360 in 1937 truck [Re: 36dodge] #1525697 11/21/13 01:51 AM 11/21/13 01:51 AM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,757 levittown pa fstfish66 top fuel
fstfish66 top fuel Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,757 levittown pa	Quote: .270/.270 dur, .420/.420 lift, mech if i remember correctly,,,420 lift would be fairly close to a stock 340/360 cam,,not sure on the duration,,,look it up on all par 1966 barracuda prostreeter super charged 340(SOLD) 1940 dodge coupe 241 hemi street rod 2014 ram express hemi 4x4 dailey driver 2015 cherokee 2013 R/T classic

Re: 360 in 1937 truck [Re: fstfish66] #1525698 11/30/13 07:43 PM 11/30/13 07:43 PM
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36dodge OP member 3 Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 58 NH	Passed on the cam..seemed like the specs were not aggressive enough. Just bought a 742 empty carrier housing....who has the internals? Got another ??? should I go with rear leafs or 4 link? 4 Link is better for handling right?

Re: 360 in 1937 truck [Re: 36dodge] #1525699 12/01/13 05:08 PM 12/01/13 05:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,953 Freeport IL USA poorboy I Live Here
poorboy I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,953 Freeport IL USA	Again, unless your planning on doing some heavy cornering, I doubt you will notice the difference between a 4 link and leaf springs, the 4 link will be more complex to set up if its not already done. Personally, I like to keep things simple, the more fancy you get, the more difficult the project becomes, and the more things can go wrong down the road. Gene

Re: 360 in 1937 truck [Re: poorboy] #1525700 12/01/13 05:13 PM 12/01/13 05:13 PM
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Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	A true 4 link is junk for handling. What most people think of as a "4 link" in regards to handling is not a 4 link. It's a 5 or 6 link setup. They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: 360 in 1937 truck [Re: Supercuda] #1525701 12/01/13 06:51 PM 12/01/13 06:51 PM
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36dodge OP member 3 Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 58 NH	Poorboy...Supercuda You guys are correct...4 link on a solid rear axle just is not worth it You would need IRS set up...ie Jag or other No I guess I will stick with the rear leafs..Just got to find short length version with the correct spring rate maybe Posies...do know they will be expensive as its not an off the shelf unit

Re: 360 in 1937 truck [Re: Supercuda] #1525702 12/01/13 07:24 PM 12/01/13 07:24 PM
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AZ_A12_BEE I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808	Quote: A true 4 link is junk for handling. What most people think of as a "4 link" in regards to handling is not a 4 link. It's a 5 or 6 link setup. Does it really matter on these old truck so? They will never be a Porsche so anything is an improvement over a straight axle The advantage a 4 link has over a leaf springed rear axle is when combined with air bags you can adjust the ride height 69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.

Re: 360 in 1937 truck [Re: poorboy] #1525703 12/01/13 08:04 PM 12/01/13 08:04 PM
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GO_Fish master Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,167 Maryland	Quote: I've heard the Magnum 360 (5.9) heads are the best small block heads produced, but they have a different angle for the bolts that hold the intake on, so extra work/parts are required to use them on an LA motor. Gene Not a big deal. If you have the LA and Mag heads side by side, I used the common bolt holes on the end of both heads to create a wooden jig and drilled and threaded my Mag heads for an LA intake. And I am WAY less experienced fabricator than Poorboy! I got one hole drilled crooked, but it seals fine. A drill press would do better than the hand drill I used. Scott B. "I'm a self-made man... I started with nothing, and I still have most of it!" 68 360 rusty B'cuda 'vert (GO Fish)13.59@ 98.72 mph 69 340 GTS stock 14.18@ 95.60 mph 01 5.9L Ram 1500 Quad Cab 4x4 01 3.5L 300M 16.23@ 86.97 mph

Re: 360 in 1937 truck [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #1525704 12/01/13 08:20 PM 12/01/13 08:20 PM
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Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Quote: Quote: A true 4 link is junk for handling. What most people think of as a "4 link" in regards to handling is not a 4 link. It's a 5 or 6 link setup. Does it really matter on these old truck so? They will never be a Porsche so anything is an improvement over a straight axle The advantage a 4 link has over a leaf springed rear axle is when combined with air bags you can adjust the ride height Don't think the cost benefit ratio is on the plus side there. You can get a well sorted out and handling parallel rear leaf setup for well under $1k. I seriously doubt you could get a 4 link/airbag setup for even close to that. And I am of the type that I set the ride height and leave it alone, I do not need a remotely adjustable ride height setup. They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: 360 in 1937 truck [Re: 36dodge] #1525705 12/01/13 09:09 PM 12/01/13 09:09 PM
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poorboy I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,953 Freeport IL USA	Quote: Poorboy...Supercuda You guys are correct...4 link on a solid rear axle just is not worth it You would need IRS set up...ie Jag or other No I guess I will stick with the rear leafs..Just got to find short length version with the correct spring rate maybe Posies...do know they will be expensive as its not an off the shelf unit Leaf springs are pretty easy, all you need is the center bolt to be at the correct location to center the rear axle in the desired location. Then mount the front leaf spring mount where it needs to be, and mount the rear mount where it needs to be. There are many options on how long the front portion of the spring is and how long the rear portion of the spring is. Spring rate is a matter of how thick and how many leafs are in the spring pack. I see no reason you can't use an off the shelf pair of leaf springs. Make your life easy, find a donner with leaf springs about the same weight as your truck, and get a new pair of springs for it. On my 54, I used a set of rear springs from a Mustang II. Put the front and rear hangers where they need to be so the rear axle was centered in the rear wheel wells and I was done. I mounted my springs outside of the frame on a 3/8" x 4" angle and bolted the Ford spring perches to the angle welded to the frame (the angle can also be bolted to the frame with 4 3/8" grade 8 bolts if you want to do all the drilling). I would also bet Mopar "A" body leaf springs would be close enough for a great ride and you can use the front leaf spring brackets from the A body too. Of course, if you want to use Posy's springs, its your money. Gene

Re: 360 in 1937 truck [Re: poorboy] #1525706 12/01/13 09:44 PM 12/01/13 09:44 PM
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Mopar Ron master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,992 Escondido, CA. Ron Podsiadly,...	I use a lot of mini truck springs(toyota,Dodge D50,and nisson )all work real nice, and easy to add or subtract leafs. Ron...

Re: 360 in 1937 truck [Re: Supercuda] #1525707 12/01/13 11:09 PM 12/01/13 11:09 PM
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AZ_A12_BEE I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808	Quote: Quote: Quote: A true 4 link is junk for handling. What most people think of as a "4 link" in regards to handling is not a 4 link. It's a 5 or 6 link setup. Does it really matter on these old truck so? They will never be a Porsche so anything is an improvement over a straight axle The advantage a 4 link has over a leaf springed rear axle is when combined with air bags you can adjust the ride height Don't think the cost benefit ratio is on the plus side there. You can get a well sorted out and handling parallel rear leaf setup for well under $1k. I seriously doubt you could get a 4 link/airbag setup for even close to that. And I am of the type that I set the ride height and leave it alone, I do not need a remotely adjustable ride height setup. Not everyone is the set and forget kind, especial those that use their rig for towing or hauling loads so just because you like like leafs springs doesn't mean a 4 link doesn't have its uses for others. Would I 4 link my Coronets, hell no, but I plan on eventually towing a jet ski trailer with my 37 and I want it low so the 4 link will serve my purpose. I fixed the screwed up springs to get my 37 roadworthy because it was easy and cheap. 69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.

Re: 360 in 1937 truck [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #1525708 12/02/13 03:32 PM 12/02/13 03:32 PM
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Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	No mention of towing at all in the OP's original request, handling was mentioned. In my book handling and towing have mutually exclusive requirements. They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: 360 in 1937 truck [Re: Supercuda] #1525709 12/02/13 04:37 PM 12/02/13 04:37 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808 AZ_A12_BEE I Live Here
AZ_A12_BEE I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 18,575 Dreaming of the 808	Quote: No mention of towing at all in the OP's original request, handling was mentioned. In my book handling and towing have mutually exclusive requirements. As is good handling and ride quality 69.5 A12 Bee, first purchased in 1976, car 169 on registry 69 Coronet R/T 440/4 spd 69 Coronet 500 Conv H code 383 4bbl/auto 37 Plymouth PU Find your spot on earth and ride it.

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