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Re: Should I switch to an automatic
[Re: gregsdart]
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09/21/13 01:29 PM
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If you plan on keeping the four speed, check to see if there are any clutches available that would work for your car that will slip a certain amount off the line. Just a thought, I figure if there is, it ought to add some consistency (given the clutch isn't heat sensitive) and save a lot on parts. A rev limiter tied into the linelock would help also.
My  Keep the 4 speed. A couple of things to consider: At launch, something has to slip, either the tires or the clutch. Your decisions. I choose to slip the tires.(cost and labor) When it comes to a 4 speed car, think "overkill". Make it bullet proof from the start and you'll save a lot of time and money in the long run. With a stick car there are a few things that are essential. First and foremost is a rev limiter. Second is a line lock with a 2 step.
Again, I suggest that you keep the 4 speed. You can have the best of both worlds, race and street cruisin' and still have a respectably fast car that's allot of fun to drive.  
4 speed street legal. Best time 10.99 @ 124 mph on 93 octane pump gas @ 3926# total weight
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Re: Should I switch to an automatic
[Re: MadMez]
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09/21/13 02:27 PM
09/21/13 02:27 PM
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Lots of 4 speed love here!
I appreciate all the input. With all the talk of skirts and man card revocation one thing stands out from the responses, 4 speeds are fun.
Fun is good, I need more fun. I'm keeping the four speed.
Automatic guys look out, MadMez is coming.
LOL.... bring it... I use to be a 4 speed guy years ago
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Re: Should I switch to an automatic
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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09/21/13 04:39 PM
09/21/13 04:39 PM
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I like both and have raced both. I bracket raced a 4-speed Dart with a 340 some years back when I was younger. I loved bracket racing it and I can bang some gears pretty good. That car ran high 11's back then and it broke alot of parts. But I ran it hard as thats what racing is about to me as I would bring the rpm's up to about 5000 as the lites came down and then put her on the floor as I let the clutch out. And then it stayed on the floor until I crossed the stripe. It ran good but it did break some parts. Now my 63 is much faster and has not broken any parts from racing. I use a manual valve body and enjoy driving it on the street. The auto with a good converter will launch as hard as the stick car but it does not shock the drivertrain as the stick does. Dont get me wrong as I love a 4-speed as much as the next guy but money wise its cheaper for me to run the auto. Course I build my own tranny's so I save money there. And I have heard all the things like..................a real man races with a clutch and all that. Which I have done but for me at my age and budget I am glad I have an auto in my 63. You just have to weigh out how you plan to use the car and then go from there and make your decision. Ron
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Re: Should I switch to an automatic
[Re: 383man]
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09/21/13 04:50 PM
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If you just want to play with the car and have fun, the stick would be ok. Just don't let me hear the throttle dip between the 2-3 shift. Once you launch, the loud pedal stays on the mat, no if's, and's or but's about it. If you want to seriously bracket race, and turn on the win light, an automatic is the answer. 
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Re: Should I switch to an automatic
[Re: Hot 340]
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09/21/13 07:41 PM
09/21/13 07:41 PM
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Mira Loma, CA
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Four speeds add charisma and make the car a hoot to drive, till the guy with the greaseball 318 and $1200 converter drive past you laughing. 
I'm dead from that.
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Re: Should I switch to an automatic
[Re: MadMez]
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09/21/13 07:43 PM
09/21/13 07:43 PM
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Lots of 4 speed love here!
I appreciate all the input. With all the talk of skirts and man card revocation one thing stands out from the responses, 4 speeds are fun.
Fun is good, I need more fun. I'm keeping the four speed.
Automatic guys look out, MadMez is coming.
I've raced both types of tranny, including a bunch of slick shifted and Pro shifted 4 gears years ago. Lots of maintenance on them  I have a 383 4 speed 1969 Dart GTS for driving on the street now, I use to race it with a 440 and a 727  I'm in the begining of making a 1966 Dodge Coronet Custom 440 powered NP833 O.D.4 speed car for street entertainment. I sold my Duster, ran low tens at 134 MPH through the muffs on pump gas motor only with a good Pro Trans 727 and good converter, it was fun also. I never had to do squat to that trans other than cleaning it out after breaking a converter. I did blow up a 10 inch street and srip converter and ended up putting a T/A 8 inch race converter in that car. That was one of the the best thing I did to that car That car would 60 ft in the low 1.40 and high 1.30  Not so on the four speed cars, 1.47 best on nine inch slicks with 5.13 rear gears Your choice, I have both now but the current race car has a Powerglide in it, it runs low nines at 143+ MPH with 1.27 60 ft. times BTW, I love the 1963 and 1964 Plymouths 2 door sedans as race cars 
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: Should I switch to an automatic
[Re: rowin4]
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09/21/13 08:21 PM
09/21/13 08:21 PM
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Just remember, 727 is lower than 833 , what's a automatic
What about the 904.... oh... ya didnt think of that one.. LOL
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Re: Should I switch to an automatic
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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09/21/13 08:32 PM
09/21/13 08:32 PM
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Just remember, 727 is lower than 833 , what's a automatic
What about the 904.... oh... ya didnt think of that one.. LOL
Oh Mike , ya got me on that one but I didn't think the used 904's behind big blocks. Heck I don't know , never raced a automatic.
it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
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Re: Should I switch to an automatic
[Re: MadMez]
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09/21/13 09:13 PM
09/21/13 09:13 PM
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OK how about a compromise?
Run a clutchflite. Best of both worlds.
Launch with a clutch and never miss a shift.
Just a thought.
Digger73
I live with fear everyday but, sometimes she lets me race!
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Re: Should I switch to an automatic
[Re: Digger73]
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09/21/13 09:22 PM
09/21/13 09:22 PM
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OK how about a compromise?
Run a clutchflite. Best of both worlds.
Launch with a clutch and never miss a shift.
Just a thought.
Digger73
I owned one years ago.... with the new high stall
conv that thing isnt needed anymore.. thats why it
died
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