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Re: 70's GUYS" The Carlton Pic. (HOOD SCOOPS Article) #150402 11/25/08 09:50 PM 11/25/08 09:50 PM
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B Dartman master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,171 Wichita Kansas	Fred, little off topic, but back in the 70's when my dad worked as Service Manager for Springfield Dodge (now gone) in Springfield PA, they helped an employee with what I suspect was at a minimum a Top Alcohol dragster. Driver by the name of Mike Demarcello? Curious if you or other board members might of known him as he'd obviously run it at Atco and E-town back in the same days we are speaking of. We'd go there at times when the dragster was there in tear down. I was knee high to a grasshopper at the time, but it's always stuck with me.. B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger in Mopar Muscle (Sold Dec 2021): https://www.hotrod.com/articles/1971-dodge-dart-destiny-determination/ B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger in Dodge Garage (Sold Dec 2021): https://www.dodgegarage.com/news/article/showcase/2019/04/destiny-determination.html B Dartman's 71 Dart Swinger early build pictures (Sold Dec 2021): https://s165.photobucket.com/user/Billswild440dart/library/

Re: 70's GUYS" The Carlton Pic. (HOOD SCOOPS Article) DELETED [Re: 69_6bbl_Runner] #150403 11/26/08 12:23 AM 11/26/08 12:23 AM
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StewartP Mopar Vintage Picture Guy S Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,031 Florida	Thank you Eric !!!

Re: 70's GUYS" The Carlton Pic. (HOOD SCOOPS Article) [Re: B Dartman] #150404 11/26/08 08:52 AM 11/26/08 08:52 AM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	Quote: Throughout this thread we see and realize a handful of cars were built. Aside from some cash, what did Detroit provide the team in the form of those cars...i.e. were they rolling chassis, just the shells, or complete cars, complete engines, or just the blocks and heads, etc. etc... How did that piece of this puzzle work? Did someone pick up the phone and say "Hey! ship us three more blocks will ya?" Did they work through any local dealerships or go direct to the engineers? these answers should be some good ones

Re: 70's GUYS" The Carlton Pic. (HOOD SCOOPS Article) #150405 12/04/08 04:57 PM 12/04/08 04:57 PM
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StewartP Mopar Vintage Picture Guy S Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,031 Florida	Well now I have another piece to the puzzle thanks to Bill R --- one of these pictures is the 2041 B/A car of Carlton - the other is the Yellow Car - my feeble memory tells me from days of old that the yellow car was remotored into a Hemi car - now I think by looking at the yellow circled pedals, I believe the B/A car was the Yellow car StewartP 4857535-2041Carlton.jpg (154 downloads) Last edited by StewartP; 12/04/08 05:00 PM.

Re: 70's GUYS" The Carlton Pic. (HOOD SCOOPS Article) [Re: StewartP] #150406 12/04/08 05:01 PM 12/04/08 05:01 PM
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StewartP Mopar Vintage Picture Guy S Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,031 Florida	Yellow car pedals 4857543-yellowcar.jpg (155 downloads)

Re: 70's GUYS" The Carlton Pic. (HOOD SCOOPS Article) [Re: StewartP] #150407 12/04/08 05:39 PM 12/04/08 05:39 PM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	so if I understand correctly..2041 is also the YELLOW car.. 4857614-carlton042-1.jpg (146 downloads)

Re: 70's GUYS" The Carlton Pic. (HOOD SCOOPS Article) #150408 12/04/08 05:45 PM 12/04/08 05:45 PM
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StewartP Mopar Vintage Picture Guy S Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,031 Florida	that has become my belief now Kevin - I have suspected that for a long time, but the pedal deal adds credence to that belief. StewartP

Re: 70's GUYS" The Carlton Pic. (HOOD SCOOPS Article) [Re: StewartP] #150409 12/04/08 06:45 PM 12/04/08 06:45 PM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	another 2041 shot. 4857770-coltvcarlton.jpg (140 downloads)

Re: 70's GUYS" The Carlton Pic. (HOOD SCOOPS Article) #150410 12/04/08 07:18 PM 12/04/08 07:18 PM
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sixpakdodge master S Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,118 Yes	I think the Yellow car was it's own car, Specially built for it's purpose. It has 4 pins across the front, The Rod Shop car has 3. The RS car has round tube pedals, the Yellow car has square sheet pedals. The Yellow car has neat pedal travel holes, the RS car has hacked holes. The interior tin work is different between the two and the Yellow car had the data recording equipment in the trunk. I think the Blue/Black 3263 B/A car is the RS car. Alot more similarities between the two.

Re: 70's GUYS" The Carlton Pic. (HOOD SCOOPS Article) [Re: sixpakdodge] #150411 12/04/08 07:24 PM 12/04/08 07:24 PM
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sixpakdodge master S Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,118 Yes	Here's the interior pic of the 3263 car (Note the paint on the A-pillar). Look at this pic and then look at the interior of the RS car below it. Note the door panels and door latch also.

Re: 70's GUYS" The Carlton Pic. (HOOD SCOOPS Article) [Re: sixpakdodge] #150412 12/04/08 08:16 PM 12/04/08 08:16 PM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	Actual I agree. Lots of differences in those 2 interiors.. Thought we were on to something..--> Fabric on seats (black vs brown). Look at the diameter of the steering "rod" from the steering wheel to the firewall. One is 1" or so diameter the other in very small like a twig. Also the floor @ drivers feet is 2 different colors and different patterns.(bends) Where the heck is Pappas when we need him. I will shoot him an email of these past 3-4 posts.

Re: 70's GUYS" The Carlton Pic. (HOOD SCOOPS Article) #150413 12/04/08 08:50 PM 12/04/08 08:50 PM
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sixpakdodge master S Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,118 Yes	The icing on the cake. Look at the hood on the 3263 car.

Re: 70's GUYS" The Carlton Pic. (HOOD SCOOPS Article) #150414 12/04/08 08:54 PM 12/04/08 08:54 PM
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StewartP Mopar Vintage Picture Guy S Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,031 Florida	Earlier in this thread, I made some unnecessary comments about Chuck West. I am, publically apologizing to Chuck for those comments. Chuck and I do not always agree about the Todd Collection, but they are saving historically significant cars, and for that I thank them. StewartP

Re: 70's GUYS" The Carlton Pic. (HOOD SCOOPS Article) [Re: StewartP] #150415 12/04/08 08:57 PM 12/04/08 08:57 PM
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sixpakdodge master S Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,118 Yes	Note the tach location in this pic.

Re: 70's GUYS" The Carlton Pic. (HOOD SCOOPS Article) [Re: sixpakdodge] #150416 12/04/08 08:58 PM 12/04/08 08:58 PM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	Quote: The icing on the cake. Look at the hood on the 3263 car. So we are back to the drawing board Also, Stewart as usual your a CLASS ACT.

Re: 70's GUYS" The Carlton Pic. (HOOD SCOOPS Article) [Re: StewartP] #150417 12/04/08 08:58 PM 12/04/08 08:58 PM
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StewartP Mopar Vintage Picture Guy S Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,031 Florida	The discussion continues. I know the yellow car was remotored into a Hemi Car, I drove it at Bradenton the week before Christmas (1975) during tests for the Winternationals. Joe P will be here tomorrow and I will ask him to get involved StewartP

Re: 70's GUYS" The Carlton Pic. (HOOD SCOOPS Article) [Re: StewartP] #150418 12/04/08 09:05 PM 12/04/08 09:05 PM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	Maybe between Joe & Dick O the mystery can be solved. Lets don't forget this one. (in the MIX) Not to many photos of this flying around Bill R---- photo . 4858103-43.jpg (137 downloads) Last edited by Kev_73_Missile; 12/04/08 09:06 PM.

Re: 70's GUYS" The Carlton Pic. (HOOD SCOOPS Article) #150419 12/04/08 09:20 PM 12/04/08 09:20 PM
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sixpakdodge master S Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,118 Yes	I was under the belief that car was rebodied into the McDade Dart Sport which would become the 3263 car.

Re: 70's GUYS" The Carlton Pic. (HOOD SCOOPS Article) [Re: sixpakdodge] #150420 12/04/08 09:27 PM 12/04/08 09:27 PM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	Quote: I was under the belief that car was rebodied into the McDade Dart Sport which would become the 3263 car. I will see your And raise you 2

Re: 70's GUYS" The Carlton Pic. (HOOD SCOOPS Article) #150421 12/05/08 12:29 AM 12/05/08 12:29 AM
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bremotorsports master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,940 New Jersey Bada Bing	OK, Missile Hounds, before I sign off for the night, here are 4 more shots of the blue Dart Sport while sitting on the open trailer. Under hood first. Bill Rolik 4858474-120508.JPG (186 downloads)

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