Re: B&M FINNED ALUMINUM TRANS PAN?
[Re: Labratt]
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09/02/13 11:23 AM
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I've always done both the deep pan and the tranny cooler, but to ad to this question I'd like to know where everyone mounts their coolers? I've always mounted mine on the front of the radiator but the cooler and lines need to be removed every time the motor has to come out. I've heard of some guys mounting them in the front wheel-well area, and some mount them towards the rear of the car. Will any of this work on a street car, or is it just best to have it on the front of the radiator? I hate blocking a portion of the radiator.
1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual
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Re: B&M FINNED ALUMINUM TRANS PAN?
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09/02/13 12:07 PM
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I've always done both the deep pan and the tranny cooler, but to ad to this question I'd like to know where everyone mounts their coolers? I've always mounted mine on the front of the radiator but the cooler and lines need to be removed every time the motor has to come out. I've heard of some guys mounting them in the front wheel-well area, and some mount them towards the rear of the car. Will any of this work on a street car, or is it just best to have it on the front of the radiator? I hate blocking a portion of the radiator.
The cooler needs a good flow of air and protection from debris. Rear mount often uses an electric fan to create air flow - through a hole in the trunk floor for example. In the fenderwell on a street car I'd be worried about kicking up a rock or other debris. Unless you want to cut the body for ducts I think in front to the rad is best.
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Re: B&M FINNED ALUMINUM TRANS PAN?
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09/02/13 08:47 PM
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Get a transmission temperature gauge and put it in the 1/8" port hole in the B & M pan. Only way you'll know if your hot or not. I like the Autometer electric trans. gauge.Uses a 1/8" sender. Once that oil gets hot,with no cooler it is tough to bring it down especially with extra fluid. Once it's hot it's hot.
I use the water temp gauge and another water temp sensor for my trans temp... I use a toggle switch so I can flip between the two and read on the same gauge... works great
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Re: B&M FINNED ALUMINUM TRANS PAN?
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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09/02/13 11:40 PM
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This is the cooler I mounted on the bottom of the radiator... I dont have a a cooler in the radiator so I had to put one somewhere...
I like that tranny cooler, looks long enough to cool the fluid and doesn't block the radiator.
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Re: B&M FINNED ALUMINUM TRANS PAN?
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09/02/13 11:48 PM
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This is the cooler I mounted on the bottom of the radiator... I dont have a a cooler in the radiator so I had to put one somewhere...
I like that tranny cooler, looks long enough to cool the fluid and doesn't block the radiator.
Bob.. so far it works very well... if you notice it has a large diameter tube(1 1/4") that makes a loop across and back... and with my set up its keeping the trans happy... I think I got that cooler at work but I dont really remember
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Re: B&M FINNED ALUMINUM TRANS PAN?
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09/06/13 01:13 AM
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The extra fluid reduces the temperature rise during a run, doesn't do much to dump heat. The oil touching the inner pan walls quickly cools and prevents hot oil from reaching the wall. Unlike a radiator, the fluid does not circulate, it just falls out of the internals and sits on top of the remaining oil. Read Mackerle. Improve it by: 1. sand blast 2. black anodize inside and out 3. if you have good nerves, weld aluminum ribs or posts to the floor and inner walls to pull heat from the hottest fluid. Examine any modern OEM aluminum pan for ideas. 4. vertical mask (16 gauge) on both sides to block header heat radiation
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Re: B&M FINNED ALUMINUM TRANS PAN?
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09/07/13 09:41 AM
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The extra fluid reduces the temperature rise during a run, doesn't do much to dump heat. The oil touching the inner pan walls quickly cools and prevents hot oil from reaching the wall. Unlike a radiator, the fluid does not circulate, it just falls out of the internals and sits on top of the remaining oil. Read Mackerle. Improve it by: 1. sand blast 2. black anodize inside and out 3. if you have good nerves, weld aluminum ribs or posts to the floor and inner walls to pull heat from the hottest fluid. Examine any modern OEM aluminum pan for ideas. 4. vertical mask (16 gauge) on both sides to block header heat radiation
could you drill & tap the pan [ 8/32 or 10/32 ] to bolt 16ga. steel vertical "walls" to the floor instead of welding ? or would that just not transfer the heat very good to the aluminium pan ?
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