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Re: Drive shaft removal - need some help [Re: moparpollack] #1492361
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I've never supported the engine when pulling a 833 4 speed. Remove the trans mount nut, then Just jack the trans up enough to remove the cross member bolts and cross member, then lower the trans till it stops, then remove the shifter, linkage and 3 of the trans bolts. Get your trans jack in place and remove the last bolt. Now If you have some help it would be nice as the trans does not set well on transmission jacks. The 833 weighs in close to 150 pounds so be carefull. The trans will slide right out , some times very quickly. I don't know why your doing this but there are a few other things you should do while you have the trans out.


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Re: Drive shaft removal - need some help [Re: moparpollack] #1492362
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Get a pogo stick to hold the engine up while you remove the transmission.




What place would you make contact with the engine? I have a high tripod stand with a 3 x 3" pad on it..


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Re: Drive shaft removal - need some help [Re: rkh17] #1492363
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Oil pan. All you are trying to do is keep the back of the motor from dropping very far. That saves wear and tear on the motor mounts. If it's a small block it keeps the distributer from hitting the firewall and keeps the fan from hitting the shroud or radiator. It's just a better safe than sorry thing.

Re: Drive shaft removal - need some help [Re: stumpy] #1492364
08/30/13 10:01 AM
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I always use about a 6 inch long 2x4 on the support.It spreads the weight on the oil pan.Ive never supported the motor either and been pulling trannys since the 60s.It is a good idea though with old motor mounts.Rocky


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Re: Drive shaft removal - need some help [Re: moparpollack] #1492365
08/30/13 10:06 AM
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Stumpy Im like you I used to lay the trans from the 65 on my chest and put it in and take it out.That was many years ago.Now I have 3 grown sons that I get to help.It takes some time to get them to do it but man is it easy.I always hated the drain plug digging into my chest.Rocky


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Re: Drive shaft removal - need some help [Re: therocks] #1492366
08/30/13 11:19 AM
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Stumpy Im like you I used to lay the trans from the 65 on my chest and put it in and take it out.That was many years ago.Now I have 3 grown sons that I get to help.It takes some time to get them to do it but man is it easy.I always hated the drain plug digging into my chest.Rocky




I did the trans thing on my chest many times when I was young. Didn't even know that a trans jack existed back then.

Re: Drive shaft removal - need some help [Re: Challenger 1] #1492367
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My first car (and only non-Mopar) was a 67 GTO 4spd. It was no big deal when I pulled the Munchie trans to change the clutch.
My next was a 72 340 Duster 4spd. I had a big surprise when I pulled the trans out and it dropped on my chest, thought I would never get out from under the car.

Re: Drive shaft removal - need some help [Re: rkh17] #1492368
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If you could find two long bolts with the same thread as the trans bolts, cut the heads off and thread into the bellhousing. Makes it easier to slide out, and way easier to slide in when reassembling.

Re: Drive shaft removal - need some help [Re: therocks] #1492369
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It's out... Thanks for everyone's help...

Special thanks to Scott Ragsdale who was nice enough to stop by and make sure I didn't drop the thing on my toe...

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Re: Drive shaft removal - need some help [Re: rkh17] #1492370
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The End...

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Re: Drive shaft removal - need some help [Re: rkh17] #1492371
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It doesn't end until it's all back together and working correctly.

Re: Drive shaft removal - need some help [Re: stumpy] #1492372
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Yeah no kidding.. but that's another thread...

One thing I did notice was that there were two different sized bolts holding the trans in.. I suspect this isn't by design.. More signs somebody just threw this thing together..

Happy to be cleaning it all up.

Pulled out the throwout bearing so will replace that.. Got some other good tips on what to poke around with while it's out..

-R

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Re: Drive shaft removal - need some help [Re: stumpy] #1492373
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It doesn't end until it's all back together and working correctly.




Just had to post that the 833 is back in the car without much in the way of issues. Car runs great, shifts great.. nothing but "miles of smiles"

Also ended up replacing all the clutch fork linkage, Z-bar, and clutch pedal linkage, all cobbed up from a B Body... even found cable ties in strategic places.

Passons did a great job with the trans and thanks to Brewers for help with the linkage.

Special thanks to Steve aka rowin4 for all his advice as well. It's folks like Steve that make these sites a great resource.

-R

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Re: Drive shaft removal - need some help [Re: rkh17] #1492374
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While you had it down that far why didnt you change out the clutch and pressure plate too. It seems you replaced everything else.

Glad the job as is, went smooth for you.

Re: Drive shaft removal - need some help [Re: Sport440] #1492375
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While you had it down that far why didnt you change out the clutch and pressure plate too. It seems you replaced everything else.

Glad the job as is, went smooth for you.




I did!

Entire new clutch disc assembly, resurfaced the flywheel...


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Re: Drive shaft removal - need some help [Re: rkh17] #1492376
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Great job. You have motivated me to try it on my '70 Bronco.

Where are you in MD??

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