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Re: Affordable harmonic balancers [Re: ProSport] #1488723 08/22/13 10:55 PM 08/22/13 10:55 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 200 Chester, VA tobnHisglory enthusiast
tobnHisglory enthusiast Joined: May 2005 Posts: 200 Chester, VA	Quote: I'm leaning towards the high strength 440Source, I don't really want to go with a fluid type damper. Just curious - Why don't you want to run a fluid style damper? -Reggie tobnHisglory2000@aol.com Former Mopars: 73 Charger - 440/727, 68 D200 Camper Special 383/727, 67 Satellite, 71 Superbee, 73 RoadRunner,2009 Ram Quad Cab Hemi 4x4 Current Mopars: 2005 Ram Quad Cab Hemi 4x4, 73 Cuda FE5 318 manual

Re: Affordable harmonic balancers [Re: tobnHisglory] #1488724 08/23/13 06:21 AM 08/23/13 06:21 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,929 Akron, Ohio ProSport OP I Live Here
ProSport OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,929 Akron, Ohio	Quote: Quote: I'm leaning towards the high strength 440Source, I don't really want to go with a fluid type damper. Just curious - Why don't you want to run a fluid style damper? Lots of people use them with no problems, I've just heard too many bad stories over the years and I've seen too many broken motors with a Fluidampr on the front of it. For what I'm using my motor for, I'd probably be ok with any kind of damper, just trying to weed out the bad ones such as the BHJ that was mentioned to be junk. I do like the fact that the 440Source fluid damper is SFI certified in case I were to hit the track sometime down the road when the rearend and suspension are upgraded, way down the road. http://store.440source.com/Fluid-damper-SFI-Certified-Chrome-New/productinfo/200-1023/ 1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual

Re: Affordable harmonic balancers [Re: sixpackgut] #1488725 08/23/13 06:39 AM 08/23/13 06:39 AM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 214 Hamburg / Germany D Den300 enthusiast
Den300 enthusiast D Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 214 Hamburg / Germany	Quote: mine has a CAT fluid style for 10 years now +1 Hamburg/Germany 69 Chrysler 300 446cui Dual Quad 12.64 @ 110.7

Re: Affordable harmonic balancers [Re: Den300] #1488726 08/23/13 07:06 AM 08/23/13 07:06 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,648 aotearoa rebel master
rebel master Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,648 aotearoa	i used the Source Fluid Damper for a few years, thought it was good but my engine had issues with bolts coming loose all the time. an engine builder down here told me it'll be because of my fluid damper. so when money became available i bought a ATI Superdamper. surprisingly i don't have a loose nut n bolt problem anymore. also the Fluid damper was tight as hell to get on & off & yet on the crank snout under the damper i had fret marks. i had the crank polished & these marks removed. 4 seasons later when i stripped the motor for a freshen up, there were no marks under the ATI damper. i'm a firm believer in quality dampers now, nothing but ATI from now on.

Re: Affordable harmonic balancers [Re: ProSport] #1488727 08/23/13 09:53 AM 08/23/13 09:53 AM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 13,236 aZLiViN J J_BODY I Live Here
J_BODY I Live Here J Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 13,236 aZLiViN	run a stock one.

Re: Affordable harmonic balancers [Re: J_BODY] #1488728 08/23/13 10:01 AM 08/23/13 10:01 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 654 ohio D dbran451 mopar
dbran451 mopar D Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 654 ohio	Quote: run a stock one. I agree if this IS a street motor save the money and use a stock one

Re: Affordable harmonic balancers [Re: J_BODY] #1488729 08/23/13 01:42 PM 08/23/13 01:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,929 Akron, Ohio ProSport OP I Live Here
ProSport OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,929 Akron, Ohio	Isn't the elastomer usually dry rotted on a stock one?

Re: Affordable harmonic balancers [Re: ProSport] #1488730 08/23/13 04:35 PM 08/23/13 04:35 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,547 Syracuse,NY CompWedgeEngines master
CompWedgeEngines master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,547 Syracuse,NY	Get a Pioneer or Powerbond for what you are doing and be done with it and have some peace of mind. RIP Monte Smith Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality. WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.

Re: Affordable harmonic balancers [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1488731 08/23/13 04:40 PM 08/23/13 04:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Quote: ... Pioneer or Powerbond... x2; The SFI-approved versions from either are both manufactured by Powerbond, IIRC. Last edited by BradH; 08/23/13 04:42 PM.

Re: Affordable harmonic balancers [Re: BradH] #1488732 08/23/13 04:46 PM 08/23/13 04:46 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	I have a used Fluidampr that I'm using, probably junk. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: Affordable harmonic balancers [Re: 72Swinger] #1488733 08/23/13 05:00 PM 08/23/13 05:00 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,366 Lehigh Acres, Florida rickstershemi master
rickstershemi master Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,366 Lehigh Acres, Florida	Professional Products here great bang for the buck Rickster

Re: Affordable harmonic balancers [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1488734 08/23/13 05:08 PM 08/23/13 05:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,929 Akron, Ohio ProSport OP I Live Here
ProSport OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,929 Akron, Ohio	Quote: Get a Pioneer or Powerbond for what you are doing and be done with it and have some peace of mind. You mean Powerforce?

Re: Affordable harmonic balancers [Re: ProSport] #1488735 08/23/13 05:43 PM 08/23/13 05:43 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,547 Syracuse,NY CompWedgeEngines master
CompWedgeEngines master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,547 Syracuse,NY	No, Powerbond is a different company. Powerforce is a Proffessional Products like Rickster mentions. RIP Monte Smith Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality. WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.

Re: Affordable harmonic balancers [Re: ProSport] #1488736 08/23/13 05:59 PM 08/23/13 05:59 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Quote: Isn't the elastomer usually dry rotted on a stock one? Theres still some out there in great shape. The one off my old 440 is in super shape, so its keeper. You would need to find one off of a nuetral balanced motor though, 71 and before. So that might be a tough one to find, probably easier to just buy new. But if you found a good one, I wouldnt hesitate to use it for what your doing. Last edited by Sport440; 08/23/13 06:00 PM.

Re: Affordable harmonic balancers [Re: ProSport] #1488737 08/23/13 08:28 PM 08/23/13 08:28 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,449 central ohio N nss guy pro stock
nss guy pro stock N Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,449 central ohio	I'd be curious to what brand balancer the people use that complain about loose torque converter bolts. Always seem to be some people have trouble with flex plates and loose converter bolts. maybe

Re: Affordable harmonic balancers [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1488738 08/23/13 09:08 PM 08/23/13 09:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,929 Akron, Ohio ProSport OP I Live Here
ProSport OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,929 Akron, Ohio	Quote: No, Powerbond is a different company. Powerforce is a Proffessional Products like Rickster mentions. Ok thanks I'll look them up.

Re: Affordable harmonic balancers [Re: nss guy] #1488739 08/23/13 09:10 PM 08/23/13 09:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,929 Akron, Ohio ProSport OP I Live Here
ProSport OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,929 Akron, Ohio	Quote: I'd be curious to what brand balancer the people use that complain about loose torque converter bolts. Always seem to be some people have trouble with flex plates and loose converter bolts. maybe That is a very good point Jim. I've pitted next to guys that have to retorque their converter bolts after every pass.

Re: Affordable harmonic balancers [Re: ProSport] #1488740 08/25/13 12:43 AM 08/25/13 12:43 AM
Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 434 Washington skrews mopar
skrews mopar Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 434 Washington	I've seen a number of Professional Products dampers fail. Pioneer gets my vote for an economical damper. Last edited by skrews; 08/25/13 12:44 AM.

Re: Affordable harmonic balancers [Re: skrews] #1488741 08/25/13 10:53 AM 08/25/13 10:53 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Quote: I've seen a number of Professional Products dampers fail. Pioneer gets my vote for an economical damper. Same here. I know of a Moparts member's Professional Products that failed during dyno testing and have heard from a friend of one that was sh!t-canned by a machine shop when they found it was the source of their being unable to get a particular rotating assembly to balance properly.

Re: Affordable harmonic balancers [Re: BradH] #1488742 08/25/13 01:00 PM 08/25/13 01:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,929 Akron, Ohio ProSport OP I Live Here
ProSport OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,929 Akron, Ohio	Ok so I'm gonna pass on Professional Products and KMJ. I think I'm gonna go with the $90 440source with the high strength steel and enclosed elastomer. Last edited by ProSport; 08/26/13 08:53 PM. 1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual

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