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Finally IT happened......Monte told me so LOL #148589
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Well after 193 passes, of which 148 were with nitrous....Running it too fat finally caught up to me...I have leaned it out to the tune of picking up almost 6 mph, and its still a little fat!

After running a nice and too fast pass of 8.43 @ 160. (for 8.50 index)I rolled up my chute, put it in the car, purged my line. When i started the car to drive back, i noticed a lot of smoke out the header, Well when i got back i pulled the plugs, sure enough #8 was oiled pretty heavily, but the strap was still there!!! LOL Im sure upon inspection its gonna have a lifted ring...

Its served me well, cant complain at all, a shelf piston and moly ring thats seen WAY more nitrous than it was intended to.

New parts were already on order before this even happened so


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Re: Finally IT happened......Monte told me so LOL [Re: n20mstr] #148590
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Cool! (well not the damage..)
What does it run on the motor, and how much jooos?

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Well, if it lasted that much longer than you expected it to I guess you can't really complain.

I just hope it didn't take anything else with it.

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Thats too bad after you finially get it dialed in

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What's the current combo anyway? That thing is haulin'


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Cool! (well not the damage..)
What does it run on the motor, and how much jooos?




last time i ran it on motor it had 4.10 gears, it went 9.85 At 134. Now it has 3.70 gears, i have never run it on motor with the 3.70's

how much nitrous???
well .070 jet in a plate, and .032 in a fogger, jet area adds up to .114 so about 375-400 hp

we had to go over the scales yesterday, it was 3515lbs

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Re: Finally IT happened......Monte told me so LOL [Re: 6PAK70CUDA] #148595
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Re: Finally IT happened......Monte told me so LOL [Re: 6PAK70CUDA] #148596
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Re: Finally IT happened......Monte told me so LOL [Re: n20mstr] #148597
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we had to go over the scales yesterday, it was 3515lbs




What block did you use for the 499?

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8.43



I would say they set down past the 60 clocks


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we had to go over the scales yesterday, it was 3515lbs




What block did you use for the 499?




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-with Dash 1's and a small roller!

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You freakin' rock....


8sec. street car, been there done that. Quitting when your ahead isn't the same as quitting.
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Re: Finally IT happened......Monte told me so LOL [Re: 6PAK70CUDA] #148603
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-with Dash 1's and a small roller!




the car is set up to run an 8.50 index, the second stage is delayed .650, any sooner and its in the 40's, that .43 yesterday was with a .610 delay, and even then its progressed in. Im pretty sure that it has potential to go a lot faster, with a little more agressive on the second stage, and a little leaner, BUT we see what next season brings Plans and parts are already in the works...


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Re: Finally IT happened......Monte told me so LOL [Re: n20mstr] #148604
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are you going to change top ends?


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Re: Finally IT happened......Monte told me so LOL [Re: 70Dustmite440] #148605
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are you going to change top ends?




same heads.....they work well for me, i can really only race in 8.50 index, the car is not legal (25.5 cert) Plus i cant really race in any other heads up stuff.....so we see how fast it can go with these heads, maybe a few other changes though


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Go for it, i hope to be back out there in a few short years too.


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Still using the column shifter???

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Sorry to hear you hurt it, good luck getting it back together! That thing sure runs good! CHIP


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You know it would be faster with a 727 right Cant wait to hear what next season brings. As for the damage who cares you have new parts on the way anyway


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That car needs its own class:

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Cool! (well not the damage..)
What does it run on the motor, and how much jooos?




last time i ran it on motor it had 4.10 gears, it went 9.85 At 134. Now it has 3.70 gears, i have never run it on motor with the 3.70's

how much nitrous???
well .070 jet in a plate, and .032 in a fogger, jet area adds up to .114 so about 375-400 hp

we had to go over the scales yesterday, it was 3515lbs




Did you have the fogger square jetted? How about the plate? I was running a 87n/91f combo in my plate and a 24/24 jet combo in the fogger in a 408" indy headed smallblock. car ran a best of 6.19 @ 111.5 on motor and a 5.50 @ 126 on just the plate. I hit the second kit (fogger) after it spun the tires one time and it went 132mph but still only went a 5.50 because of the bad 60'. Last time at the track I hit the second kit and burned a ground strap on #4 and melted some of the piston too. I was told it was too rich but it appears that to me that it was too lean. Im almost afraid to try to lean it out after burning a piston but Im being told that too fat is what caused the damage. I was running 16* total timing and was told that was too much as well. It needed to be at 12*.

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i am leary to post my tune up, because as someone told me, they read your post and then burn [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean] up and blame it on you....LOL

You havene listed any fuel psi with your jetting, i was 5.2 on the plate, and 5.2 on the fogger, fogger was 32n 28f, now you see me, i made 140++ passes, not all with that jetting, but all were with nitrous, Obviously your motor didnt like something, most likely it was timing, like i have been told, it takes a lot to lean the fuel out and hurt it. My problem i think is too fat, (only recently have i leaned it out a lot) and combination of parts that were never intended to see 300+ nitrous oxide ( Moly rings, and a Shelf piston)
If you use nitrous, and you want to go fast, you have to expect some carnage, its all part of the learning curve.

All that being said, what fuel psi did you have in your kits??
What fuel were you using??


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i am leary to post my tune up, because as someone told me, they read your post and then burn [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean] up and blame it on you....LOL

You havene listed any fuel psi with your jetting, i was 5.2 on the plate, and 5.2 on the fogger, fogger was 32n 28f, now you see me, i made 140++ passes, not all with that jetting, but all were with nitrous, Obviously your motor didnt like something, most likely it was timing, like i have been told, it takes a lot to lean the fuel out and hurt it. My problem i think is too fat, (only recently have i leaned it out a lot) and combination of parts that were never intended to see 300+ nitrous oxide ( Moly rings, and a Shelf piston)
If you use nitrous, and you want to go fast, you have to expect some carnage, its all part of the learning curve.

All that being said, what fuel psi did you have in your kits??
What fuel were you using??




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Well upon disassmbly, all i can see is the second ring is pinched on the #8 piston. I measured the top alomst all the way around and the deck ht was still the same, it hasnt lifted the top of the piston at all. But the second ring is TIGHT actually it doesnt move at all LOL LOL. Other than that, the rest of the pistons all look good..


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Running too rich helped my rings find that extra space they wanted in the lands too. It's a strange thing to look in the cylinder with a scope and be able to see the ring in the intake pocket area.

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That car needs its own class:

Scary Stock!



lol he called eddie out on yellowbullett before..


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lol he called eddie out on yellowbullett before..




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lol he called eddie out on yellowbullett before..




best in 8.50 trim has been 8.43 @ 160,What can it run all out?? im 3500lbs i told Ediie to spot me for the weight diff or run me heads up at 3500....I wanted to meet at a Mopar event and do it. best out of three or whatever, for fun, figured it woud draw a crowd to the event, Eddie wanted me to go to Orlando.. I guess he didnt want to travel too far. A lot of people told me i was dumb for asking for a spot but hey it was worth a try There are a lot of differences in our two cars, Eddies car is clearly more of a racecar than my more of a street car..I know hes done drag week etc and he has proven his streetcar worthiness, but anyone that has seen the two cars knows what im talking about


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lol he called eddie out on yellowbullett before..




best in 8.50 trim has been 8.43 @ 160,What can it run all out?? im 3500lbs i told Ediie to spot me for the weight diff or run me heads up at 3500....I wanted to meet at a Mopar event and do it. best out of three or whatever, for fun, figured it woud draw a crowd to the event, Eddie wanted me to go to Orlando.. I guess he didnt want to travel too far. A lot of people told me i was dumb for asking for a spot but hey it was worth a try There are a lot of differences in our two cars, Eddies car is clearly more of a racecar than my more of a street car..I know hes done drag week etc and he has proven his streetcar worthiness, but anyone that has seen the two cars knows what im talking about




lol... you called him out and asked him to come to you

eddies car is a street car for sure...he proved that.... yours runs faster than it looks for sure....


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i didnt ask him to come to me, i said to meet half way for each of us ....AT A MOPAR RACE...Ohio, Rockingham, Etc.....
read it for yourself..http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83493&highlight=1fastmopar

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i didnt ask him to come to me, i said to meet half way for each of us ....AT A MOPAR RACE...Ohio, Rockingham, Etc.....
read it for yourself..
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83493&highlight=1fastmopar





he did'nt show up to race birdistheword either, i dont know why someone would do all that talking and not want to back it up...specially with having a state-of-the art motor.

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I am definitely not defending Eddie here. As most know, I think he runs his mouth too much, is full of hot air and I give him grief often...however...when YOU call a man out and then HE won't come 1,000 miles to race you in your backyard, there is not really a whole lot you can say. Eddie lives in south Florida. He has to drive 400 miles, just to get out of his home state. I am a little out of the way, but Englishtown is 1150 miles for me and Moroso is nearly 900 miles from me. So somehwere around the Tennessee area is halfway for Eddie, not Ohio. That would kinda be like Al Alguire calling me out and them claiming I was afraid, because I would not drive to Phoenix to race him. If you are doing the calling out, you should be willing to travel to prove your point. At least that is how I see it.

Monte

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Fix the ring land and put a new ring on it and throw it back in for somemore good runs......
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I am definitely not defending Eddie here. As most know, I think he runs his mouth too much, is full of hot air and I give him grief often...however...when YOU call a man out and then HE won't come 1,000 miles to race you in your backyard, there is not really a whole lot you can say. Eddie lives in south Florida. He has to drive 400 miles, just to get out of his home state. I am a little out of the way, but Englishtown is 1150 miles for me and Moroso is nearly 900 miles from me. So somehwere around the Tennessee area is halfway for Eddie, not Ohio. That would kinda be like Al Alguire calling me out and them claiming I was afraid, because I would not drive to Phoenix to race him. If you are doing the calling out, you should be willing to travel to prove your point. At least that is how I see it.

Monte




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Re: Finally IT happened......Monte told me so LOL [Re: moparniac] #148626
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Hmmmmm......I recently heard that one purple duster was running very well and ready to go these days

Might want to toss the "Called Eddie out" on the table again .....I think he likes to travel.

Re: Finally IT happened......Monte told me so LOL [Re: quick77rt ] #148627
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Hmmmmm......I recently heard that one purple duster was running very well and ready to go these days

Might want to toss the "Called Eddie out" on the table again .....I think he likes to travel.




Saw a post from him on YB the other day saying he wanted to sell the Duster and buy a Chevy.


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Re: Finally IT happened......Monte told me so LOL [Re: slantzilla] #148628
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H e probably does not want to buy predator stuff from Indy as Eddie has a bad Indy taste in his mouth. LOL

Re: Finally IT happened......Monte told me so LOL [Re: hemi_al588] #148629
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You might as well not run him, cause if you outrun him you still won't win.

They'll be some nutswinger talking about how it's a streetcar, even tho it broke down every 50 miles or so. How easy it is to forget that when it made it trouble free, it had a different combo.

We outran him with the Dakota. A truck, on a leafspring, a radial, no wheelie bars, a smaller motor with less head, less nitrous, and outweighed him by 400lbs and there were STILL excuses. We have let off the gas, out of gear, and still been faster and quicker than his BEST pass. Yet he is everyone's hero. 7.90's with that combo - for shame.

So, if you race him, be prepared...

"He's on pump gas" - no, he won't be, and NEVER is when it's at the track.
"It's a street car" - if my daily driver broke down that often I'd sell it and get something more reliable. Hell never mind Drag Week, it broke down last time out in Daytona.
"Your car is purpose built" - Like a dyno tuned 600" Predator headed 4 link car on a big tire is run of the mill.
"Blah blah blah" - Followed by some other lame excuse.

I'll keep you guys posted on the top secret race with him and a small block/small tire/stock suspension Malibu coming up...

I'm betting on the 'Bu.

Re: Finally IT happened......Monte told me so LOL [Re: Monte_Smith] #148630
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I am definitely not defending Eddie here. As most know, I think he runs his mouth too much, is full of hot air and I give him grief often...however...when YOU call a man out and then HE won't come 1,000 miles to race you in your backyard, there is not really a whole lot you can say. Eddie lives in south Florida. He has to drive 400 miles, just to get out of his home state. I am a little out of the way, but Englishtown is 1150 miles for me and Moroso is nearly 900 miles from me. So somehwere around the Tennessee area is halfway for Eddie, not Ohio. That would kinda be like Al Alguire calling me out and them claiming I was afraid, because I would not drive to Phoenix to race him. If you are doing the calling out, you should be willing to travel to prove your point. At least that is how I see it.

Monte




I never said Eddie was afraid.
He wanted me to go to Orlando, cmon is that halfway??? I never wanted him to come to Englishtown, thats only 90 miles for me.

The only reason i called him out was because at some events people come up to me and tell me that i should race him because they are tired of hearing him talk about how fast his car is when in reality it has all the equipment to run in the 6's when its barely in the 7's. I think Eddie is a very good engine builder. But honestly Monte, if you didnt lay your hands on the car it still would be a 8 sec car . Hes got way better car than me, i have NO business being in the next lane.....BUT if the chance presents itself, and i feel im ready, i will go for it. Other than that, i give Eddie the respect and props he deserves.


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Re: Finally IT happened......Monte told me so LOL [Re: Outlaw10_5] #148631
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"He's on pump gas" - no, he won't be, and NEVER is when it's at the track.
"It's a street car" - if my daily driver broke down that often I'd sell it and get something more reliable. Hell never mind Drag Week, it broke down last time out in Daytona.
"Your car is purpose built" - Like a dyno tuned 600" Predator headed 4 link car on a big tire is run of the mill.






obviously you dont like eddied but i remember that old post... he only ran a 9.0 that day or whatever and the dak is all compressioned up... im sure you can dig the old post up..

now if you gonna make fun of him thats cool everyone does but have some integrity in your post!

you know he didnt break down every 50 miles and maybe it was his fault for not testing the car but he finished drag week as everyone else is under the same rules and he won twice and once was the overall... eddies car is a street car... i think everyone here knows it should be faster but eddie is to stubborn to ask for help...



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