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Re: Danger from the burnout box
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08/14/13 11:38 AM
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That next year, the insurance will be harder to find
That thought crossed my mind......but it wasn't negligence on the part of any of the track personnel.
Sorry but I beg to differ on that. That incident should not have happened period and if the track staff were doing there jobs they would have stopped the guy before this stupid sht happened. All the tracks should be informed and have the guy and his involved crew permanently banned from all tracks up here. Thankfully no one was injured.
 They should have not been allowed to start the FC until the other two cars had made the turn to the return road!
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Re: Danger from the burnout box
[Re: StealthWedge67]
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08/14/13 01:15 PM
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I think one of my policies cover my car everywhere but when actually traveling down the track.
You might be kidding yourself..... I'd be shocked if there's a policy on the planet that will cover damages encurred from being hit by another car while on a racetrack with both cars in the midst of competition. And make no mistake, to a insurance adjuster, both of these cars were in the act of racing at the time of this incident. The policy that covers this sort of thing is: "NOT BEING A COMPLETE IDIOT AND FOLLOWING THAT UP WITH BEING A COMPLETE JERK", which is a policy we should all strive to follow, and most of us do a great job of.
There are indeed policys that cover race cars in competition, and insurance does cover stupidity. I see it everyday. 
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Re: Danger from the burnout box
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08/15/13 10:22 AM
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I've seen pics and videos from your airport track...props to you guys doing good with the facility you have! I've been to Vancouver Island, and it's probaby the prettiest place I've travelled to.
Insurance may be a tad more expensive, but not much more. If no one was badly injured, and no claim made on the insurance, there shouldn't be a problem. My suggestion would be to make sure that every driver and crew member would be told that no one is to start their burnout until a TRACK CREW member gives the sign.
Unbeleivable that the FC guys bailed like that. What a bunch of spineless cowards.
Ron H.
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Re: Danger from the burnout box
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08/23/13 06:24 PM
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I think one of my policies cover my car everywhere but when actually traveling down the track.
You might be kidding yourself..... I'd be shocked if there's a policy on the planet that will cover damages encurred from being hit by another car while on a racetrack with both cars in the midst of competition. And make no mistake, to a insurance adjuster, both of these cars were in the act of racing at the time of this incident. The policy that covers this sort of thing is: "NOT BEING A COMPLETE IDIOT AND FOLLOWING THAT UP WITH BEING A COMPLETE JERK", which is a policy we should all strive to follow, and most of us do a great job of.
There are indeed policys that cover race cars in competition
Ya, show me one. I agree with most of the " guy was stupid " comments, but he is not legally bound to pay for any damages he caused. Everyone ( spectators, pit crew, drivers,) should read the disclaimer on the back side of their admission tickets - yes, it is in VERY SMALL print. Basically all the above wave their rights to any and all liabilities once they buy that ticket and step on to the track grounds. " holder voluntarily assumes all risks and danger incidental to the event for which the ticket is issued." The track, owner and all it's personnel are also released by the holder from any claims arising from ........take your pick . And if you think your insurance company will cover you, you are sadly mistaken. Your coverage stops when you buy that ticket and step on to the track grounds. This holds true for a lot of sporting activities. Check out you ball park stub. 
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Re: Danger from the burnout box
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08/26/13 02:19 PM
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Both sides lose There is no insurance and frankly after having car hit at track from behind I would not pay any claim either if I would hit someone Too bad The track should cover but they indemnify themselves with the sign in sheet. Frankly I find is amazing to see new Mega dollar cars on track with risk involved, if your rich fine but most are just average joe's
So just to make sure I'm understanding you: You're saying that if you hit someone from behind in a moment of stupidity such as this, you WOULDN'T help the guy out, but you think the TRACK SHOULD pay up for your stupidity?!!
I hope Im missenterpreting your comment, but IF this is indeed what you're saying; You might be the same sort of jerk numerous people have referenced above in this thread. What the hell would make you think someone, ANYONE, else should be responsible for your actions?
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Re: Danger from the burnout box
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08/26/13 10:29 PM
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I think one of my policies cover my car everywhere but when actually traveling down the track.
You might be kidding yourself..... I'd be shocked if there's a policy on the planet that will cover damages encurred from being hit by another car while on a racetrack with both cars in the midst of competition. And make no mistake, to a insurance adjuster, both of these cars were in the act of racing at the time of this incident. The policy that covers this sort of thing is: "NOT BEING A COMPLETE IDIOT AND FOLLOWING THAT UP WITH BEING A COMPLETE JERK", which is a policy we should all strive to follow, and most of us do a great job of.
There are indeed policys that cover race cars in competition
Ya, show me one. I agree with most of the " guy was stupid " comments, but he is not legally bound to pay for any damages he caused. Everyone ( spectators, pit crew, drivers,) should read the disclaimer on the back side of their admission tickets - yes, it is in VERY SMALL print. Basically all the above wave their rights to any and all liabilities once they buy that ticket and step on to the track grounds. " holder voluntarily assumes all risks and danger incidental to the event for which the ticket is issued." The track, owner and all it's personnel are also released by the holder from any claims arising from ........take your pick . And if you think your insurance company will cover you, you are sadly mistaken. Your coverage stops when you buy that ticket and step on to the track grounds. This holds true for a lot of sporting activities. Check out you ball park stub.
anyone more than a year out of law school can beat that "waiver"
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Re: Danger from the burnout box
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08/26/13 10:48 PM
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I think one of my policies cover my car everywhere but when actually traveling down the track.
You might be kidding yourself..... I'd be shocked if there's a policy on the planet that will cover damages encurred from being hit by another car while on a racetrack with both cars in the midst of competition. And make no mistake, to a insurance adjuster, both of these cars were in the act of racing at the time of this incident. The policy that covers this sort of thing is: "NOT BEING A COMPLETE IDIOT AND FOLLOWING THAT UP WITH BEING A COMPLETE JERK", which is a policy we should all strive to follow, and most of us do a great job of.
There are indeed policys that cover race cars in competition
Ya, show me one. I agree with most of the " guy was stupid " comments, but he is not legally bound to pay for any damages he caused. Everyone ( spectators, pit crew, drivers,) should read the disclaimer on the back side of their admission tickets - yes, it is in VERY SMALL print. Basically all the above wave their rights to any and all liabilities once they buy that ticket and step on to the track grounds. " holder voluntarily assumes all risks and danger incidental to the event for which the ticket is issued." The track, owner and all it's personnel are also released by the holder from any claims arising from ........take your pick . And if you think your insurance company will cover you, you are sadly mistaken. Your coverage stops when you buy that ticket and step on to the track grounds. This holds true for a lot of sporting activities. Check out you ball park stub.
anyone more than a year out of law school can beat that "waiver"
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You can't waiver negligent acts.
Who is in charge of the track? The guy/crew in his FC or the track and crew?
When a Fuel car of any nature or Top Alcohol cars come to the line, you'd think, maybe, just maybe, you need to take MORE care in how you allow that particular vehicle to enter the racing surface.
The track and crew screwed the pooch on the first count by not controlling the staging lanes/burnout box. The idiot driving the FC carried on the negligence by doing a burnout when he supposedly couldn't see clearly in front of the car because of glare... REALLY??? Last I checked it's not the wild west coming into the burnout box.
This incident is in no way the same as getting hit in the noggin by a foul ball, or getting clipped by a puck at a hockey game.
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Re: Danger from the burnout box
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08/27/13 01:57 AM
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I think one of my policies cover my car everywhere but when actually traveling down the track.
You might be kidding yourself..... I'd be shocked if there's a policy on the planet that will cover damages encurred from being hit by another car while on a racetrack with both cars in the midst of competition. And make no mistake, to a insurance adjuster, both of these cars were in the act of racing at the time of this incident. The policy that covers this sort of thing is: "NOT BEING A COMPLETE IDIOT AND FOLLOWING THAT UP WITH BEING A COMPLETE JERK", which is a policy we should all strive to follow, and most of us do a great job of.
There are indeed policys that cover race cars in competition
Ya, show me one. I agree with most of the " guy was stupid " comments, but he is not legally bound to pay for any damages he caused. Everyone ( spectators, pit crew, drivers,) should read the disclaimer on the back side of their admission tickets - yes, it is in VERY SMALL print. Basically all the above wave their rights to any and all liabilities once they buy that ticket and step on to the track grounds. " holder voluntarily assumes all risks and danger incidental to the event for which the ticket is issued." The track, owner and all it's personnel are also released by the holder from any claims arising from ........take your pick . And if you think your insurance company will cover you, you are sadly mistaken. Your coverage stops when you buy that ticket and step on to the track grounds. This holds true for a lot of sporting activities. Check out you ball park stub.
anyone more than a year out of law school can beat that "waiver"
Yep,
You can't waiver negligent acts.
Who is in charge of the track? The guy/crew in his FC or the track and crew?
When a Fuel car of any nature or Top Alcohol cars come to the line, you'd think, maybe, just maybe, you need to take MORE care in how you allow that particular vehicle to enter the racing surface.
The track and crew screwed the pooch on the first count by not controlling the staging lanes/burnout box. The idiot driving the FC carried on the negligence by doing a burnout when he supposedly couldn't see clearly in front of the car because of glare... REALLY??? Last I checked it's not the wild west coming into the burnout box.
This incident is in no way the same as getting hit in the noggin by a foul ball, or getting clipped by a puck at a hockey game.
No, you can't waiver negligent acts, but you do have to prove them ( sue the track and the driver ). My comparison to other sports was only related to what the ticket stubs say. Proving negligence (in this case ) probably wouldn't be too hard. In other scenarios, ( clutch explosion, poor track prep, etc. ) not so clear cut. Lawyer would win for sure.
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No more burn outs allow to start until the other pair of cars had taken off from the starting line after that.The Plymouth owner told the Mustang racer to pound sand also 
NHRA use to run sportmans cars through the timers like a bunch of kindergarten kids getting free candy at the school cafeteria 
Stuff happens at the race track, when it involves stupity or negligenced(SP?) someone should pay 
. Call me a woosy, but I don't need any help being stupid. The guy that got rear ended could have been on a motorcycle. 
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